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1 posted on 12/03/2014 7:36:21 PM PST by Citizen Zed
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and remove Presidential term limits for Barry ?


2 posted on 12/03/2014 7:38:50 PM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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Kiss the Second Amendment goodbye.


5 posted on 12/03/2014 7:43:06 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Remember! When the GOP wins, it means the stupid American voters want bipartisanship.)
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We need a states convention for a no confidence/ throw the bums in jail vote!


6 posted on 12/03/2014 7:55:15 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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More proof of what a bad idea this is. You might as well give Obama a pen and have him rewrite the constitution.


8 posted on 12/03/2014 8:03:47 PM PST by Revel
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For Gods sake don't do it. As it is it works better than all of the others. Open the door and all of the misfits and loonies will destroy it. We can work with what we have, and have done well for 230 years.
9 posted on 12/03/2014 8:05:03 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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They want to get the federal government by the neck and squeeze every drop of pork out of it then pass a national sales tax for more debt/revenues to finish setting up their police state. The only entity that’s more communist than the average federal bureaucrat is a big municipal government bureaucrat or the most influential constituent behind the bureaucrat.

We need new leadership in every level of government, business and academia. The way is to allow the political regulators to experience the consequences of their big spending (default, office closings, etc.) and to rebuild with less centralized, more distributed production.


10 posted on 12/03/2014 8:05:07 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Just call it The Peoples Republic Of Barry


12 posted on 12/03/2014 8:07:53 PM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: 5thGenTexan; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; Art in Idaho; Arthur Wildfire! March; Arthur McGowan; ...

Article V ping.


14 posted on 12/03/2014 8:10:48 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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Why is it that people go crazy with hysterical fears about an Article V conference of state lawmakers to propose amendments to the US Constitution?

The Illinois lawmakers referenced in this article are 2 democrats and 1 republican. The 2 dems are concerned about campaign finance meaning they want to amend the 1st Amendment and only that. The republican is spouting about Article V must leave open the door to all proposals.

Yes of course, any state lawmaker can propose whatever they like. For example, a state lawmaker can propose an amendment that requires Congress members to dress in togas and bark at a full moon before adjourning Congress for the holidays.

The reality is that there are going to be only one or two proposals that get the support of 34 States. It takes 2/3’s of the States (34 States) to propose an amendment and then it takes 3/4’s of States (38 States) to ratify an amendment and make it part of the Constitution. I see at most only one amendment making it all the way through to ratification.

But only one amendment will do the job because Congress and the Federal Courts need to be put on notice that the People have had enough and are not going to take any more of their interference in their lives. Once an Article V process is completed, Congress should never again take the American people for granted.


17 posted on 12/03/2014 8:21:35 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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These are the people who want to change our Constitution.


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18 posted on 12/03/2014 8:22:32 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Bost says the danger is there could be unforeseen changes that are detrimental to the Constitutional Republic.

What could be more "detrimental" to the Constitutional Republic than allowing the same result by a single unrestrained elected Executive megalomaniac?

( That is a serious question! )

19 posted on 12/03/2014 8:22:56 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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Might as well go for it. Looking at the grotesque state of America-2014, there’s absolutely nothing left to lose anymore. You already have both the Constitution and the rule of law effectively dead. Obama acting like a dictator pushing a lawless amnesty, tyrannical federal judges overruling state constitutions to impose their depraved fag-marriage views on the states, government agencies like the IRS being used to attack on the basis of politics, etc.

If America as it is now looked even remotely salvageable, I’d be more wary about opening such a can of worms. But it’s reached the point where it just no longer seems to matter. Might as well roll the dice. Probably won’t work out, but it also still sounds like a better gamble than sitting around and expecting the GOP to suddenly grow a spine and start standing up to Obama’s growing despotism.


20 posted on 12/03/2014 8:26:30 PM PST by greene66
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This article is wrong, it is meant to scare everyone into abandoning the process. Article 5 is our best option!


22 posted on 12/03/2014 8:37:43 PM PST by bigtoona
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

King Barack and the Left don’t like any of this. However, the first word says it applies to Congress. So the King can ban “Christ”mas, remove the word “peaceably” when you have a grievance against the racist police, and say that “the press” doesn’t mean Faux News.

Why bother amending the “old, outdated” Constitution when you can just ignore or redefine it?


23 posted on 12/03/2014 8:42:12 PM PST by Rainier1789 (My Constitution has a 2nd and 10th Amendment)
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So a vote of 3/4 of the State Legislatures could remove birthright citizenship for the children of illegal invaders?


24 posted on 12/03/2014 8:54:33 PM PST by Rainier1789 (My Constitution has a 2nd and 10th Amendment)
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It's the return to Republican Governance that Article V is for. Right now we have nameless faceless bureaucrats writing law. We have Federal Judges using their self invested power of whim to ignore what the Constitution actually said or meant to overrule ballot initiatives passed by millions. We have a Congress which pretends to be carrying out the will of the people but is intent on following their own agenda , whose only concern is how to fool voters into thinking they care about what needs to be done. The leftist super rich, the 1% of the 1% , have gotten much richer even as the countries wealth is drained into their well connected coffers. 

This is no longer the Republic the founders had in mind. Article V was put in place by the Founders for precisely such a time as we have today: A federal Government free of the restraints  of a law abiding people. They gave the states a means to by-pass the whole rotten edifice, that is why there is an Article V in the first place. 

We now have a lawless President actually writing his own law unilaterally and an irresponsible Congress that is only pretending to resist . A Congress that , in actual fact, is pleased to be relieved of being blamed with doing what they wanted anyways. A Congress willing to let this lawless President undermine the very separation of powers that is at the core of our Republic. A genuine Congress jealous of their law making power being seized would impeach this pretender to a throne and would see shutting down the Government as much preferable to ending the Republic itself.

Since it's clear that Congress will not use the power they have to end this dire threat it's up to the states to stop him and their is no better way than using Article V itself to do so. Even if the required amount of states is not reached, as the amount gets close to the requisite 34 the counter offers Congress will submit will get better and better as it feels the heat and the threat of being trumped in their fixed game of endlessly looting.

27 posted on 12/03/2014 9:28:58 PM PST by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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Good. Let’s disband Congress since it cannot and will not hold the president accountable.


34 posted on 12/04/2014 1:43:48 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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I predict:

No convention, for the same reasons which were present going back decades; namely no agreement among 2/3 or 3/4 of states.

But it sells books.


47 posted on 12/04/2014 10:02:33 AM PST by truth_seeker
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Repeal the 16th and the 17th


48 posted on 12/04/2014 10:04:52 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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State Rep. Chapa LaVia said calls for the convention are to address campaign finance and the scope cannot go farther than that.

I'd accept that if they consider repealing the 17th amendment as campaign finance reform.

You'd be eliminating 33 of the most expensive elections that occur every 2 years. That's about as absolute a campaign finance reform that one can get!

-PJ

50 posted on 12/04/2014 10:45:09 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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