Posted on 12/03/2014 7:36:21 PM PST by Citizen Zed
Illinois State lawmakers have joined several other states to call for a Constitutional Convention to amend the U.S. Constitution when it comes to campaign finance reform.
During debate on the House floor Wednesday, State Rep. Chapa LaVia said calls for the convention are to address campaign finance and the scope cannot go farther than that.
But outgoing State Rep. Mike Bost, who recently won an election to the U.S. House, says once the door is opened, anything is possible.
“Once you open and you do a Constitutional convention, it is not going to be and cannot be focused just on one issue, you must then open up – because it’s a Constitutional Convention – you will be dealing with the entire Constitution,” Bost said.
Bost says the danger is there could be unforeseen changes that are detrimental to the Constitutional Republic.
(Excerpt) Read more at ilnews.org ...
and remove Presidential term limits for Barry ?
and the entire bill of rights as well.
Still need 3/4 quarters of states to ratify....
Kiss the Second Amendment goodbye.
We need a states convention for a no confidence/ throw the bums in jail vote!
Quite the opposite.
Mark Levin tells the way amendments can be proposed and passed without Congress stopping the changes. The states meet, decide on amendments and 3/4 of the state legislatures must pass the amendment. The state legislatures are majority republican so the loony led liberal states are on the losing end.
It is the way the founders gave us the power to stop an overpowering federal gov’t.
See: The Liberty Amendments by Mark Levin.
More proof of what a bad idea this is. You might as well give Obama a pen and have him rewrite the constitution.
They want to get the federal government by the neck and squeeze every drop of pork out of it then pass a national sales tax for more debt/revenues to finish setting up their police state. The only entity that’s more communist than the average federal bureaucrat is a big municipal government bureaucrat or the most influential constituent behind the bureaucrat.
We need new leadership in every level of government, business and academia. The way is to allow the political regulators to experience the consequences of their big spending (default, office closings, etc.) and to rebuild with less centralized, more distributed production.
The Article, Mike Bost’s opinion, and all the comments are uniformly uninformed and as a result are totally off base in every possible way.
First off, if Illinois passes a resolution calling for an Article V Convention on campaign finance reform, they will need to convince the other 2/3 of the States to do likewise - ON THE SAME SUBJECT. Since other States are calling for an Article V Convention on reining in the power and reach of the federal government - a different topic altogether, the petitions will not be counted together. In other words, Illinois is engaging in theatre, merely pissing into the wind.
Secondly, it’s not a Constitutional Convention in any case. People who keep making this mistake are ignorant of the facts and ought to educate themselves. This includes Mike Bost, who is just as ignorant as the most ignorant among us.
Third, an Amendment V Convention may ONLY consider proposing Amendments, which must then be ratified by 3/4 of the States DEALING WITH THE SPECIFIC SUBJECT MATTER OF THE CONVENTION CALL.
No Article V convention called to restrain the power of the Federal Government can consider nor would consider proposing revising or repealing the 2nd Amendment. And, even if they did propose such a thing against all logic and protocol, there is no way on this Earth that 3/4 of the States would agree to such a thing by ratifying it.
SO, please, everyone, why not help end the endless BS and FUD buy posting TRUTHFUL comments on the possibility of an Article V Convention?
And please, everyone - call out anyone who ignorantly calls it a “Constitutional Convention”, which it is not, and which no body whether State or Federal has any Constitutional authority whatsoever to call or convene under any circumstance at all, ever.
Just call it The Peoples Republic Of Barry
Article V ping.
Kiss the Second Amendment goodbye.I doubt you could find 38 states to ratify getting rid of the 2nd amendment.
On the contrary, I think you could find 38 states to agree to strengthen the 2nd amendment, for example: federally mandated CCW reciprocity among all states (take that, CA, NY and MA!). And considering that more states are legalizing silencers for hunting, I think there's a fair chance at silencers being excluded from NFA control. You could probably get those same states to agree to remove the silly short-barrel rifles/shotgun control from NFA as well. I think you have a better chance getting 38 states to ease off the NFA, than to ratify dumping the 2nd amendment.
Here's the fear: Everyone thinks that with a Con-Con, all sorts of loony leftist proposals will be made -- and they probably will. *HOWEVER*, it takes 38 states to ratify for it to become an offical amendment. I challenge anyone to find 38 states that would remove the right to keep and bear arms. Ain't going to happen.
Alright, fine. Political contributions from government unions and government-linked corporations must be stopped. Their voice in politics is a conflict of interest and a subversive threat against our national security and American freedom. If you want to see something like that as a law of the land, then continue with the vanity.
Why is it that people go crazy with hysterical fears about an Article V conference of state lawmakers to propose amendments to the US Constitution?
The Illinois lawmakers referenced in this article are 2 democrats and 1 republican. The 2 dems are concerned about campaign finance meaning they want to amend the 1st Amendment and only that. The republican is spouting about Article V must leave open the door to all proposals.
Yes of course, any state lawmaker can propose whatever they like. For example, a state lawmaker can propose an amendment that requires Congress members to dress in togas and bark at a full moon before adjourning Congress for the holidays.
The reality is that there are going to be only one or two proposals that get the support of 34 States. It takes 2/3’s of the States (34 States) to propose an amendment and then it takes 3/4’s of States (38 States) to ratify an amendment and make it part of the Constitution. I see at most only one amendment making it all the way through to ratification.
But only one amendment will do the job because Congress and the Federal Courts need to be put on notice that the People have had enough and are not going to take any more of their interference in their lives. Once an Article V process is completed, Congress should never again take the American people for granted.
What could be more "detrimental" to the Constitutional Republic than allowing the same result by a single unrestrained elected Executive megalomaniac?
( That is a serious question! )
Might as well go for it. Looking at the grotesque state of America-2014, there’s absolutely nothing left to lose anymore. You already have both the Constitution and the rule of law effectively dead. Obama acting like a dictator pushing a lawless amnesty, tyrannical federal judges overruling state constitutions to impose their depraved fag-marriage views on the states, government agencies like the IRS being used to attack on the basis of politics, etc.
If America as it is now looked even remotely salvageable, I’d be more wary about opening such a can of worms. But it’s reached the point where it just no longer seems to matter. Might as well roll the dice. Probably won’t work out, but it also still sounds like a better gamble than sitting around and expecting the GOP to suddenly grow a spine and start standing up to Obama’s growing despotism.
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