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How to Nuke a Submarine
War is Boring ^ | December 1, 2014 | Steve Weintz

Posted on 12/02/2014 7:22:39 AM PST by C19fan

Can you kill a sub with a nuke?

It seems pretty obvious that a nuclear explosion deep in the ocean should sink a submarine, but you need to be sure if you’re gearing up for World War III. During the heyday of nuclear testing in the 1950s, the U.S. Navy made sure of its underwater atomic might with an elaborate and very loud test.

Sailors and scientists needed to know the range and lethality of underwater nuclear explosions. Would they harm the crews, ships and planes delivering the weapons? Would the ocean become too contaminated near the blast for forces to remain and fight?

(Excerpt) Read more at medium.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: nuclear; tests; warisboring

1 posted on 12/02/2014 7:22:39 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

I always wonder how many fish died as a result of the nuke underwater tests

A stick of dynamite in a pond was a good way to kill ALL the fish and make the pond useless as a fishing hole...

Underwater shock waves would be enormous!

if you toss a stick of dynamite 30 yards away in the air you can feel the shock but you probably wont die

Toss a stick 30 yards away in a lake and you will not survive


2 posted on 12/02/2014 7:25:53 AM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: C19fan

And thus we learn.

Then. Now?


3 posted on 12/02/2014 7:27:58 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: C19fan

I read about how surprisingly efficient nukes underwater were sometime back. Especially a hydrogen test which went well beyond expectations.


4 posted on 12/02/2014 7:31:10 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: C19fan

Nuclear depth charges aren’t worth the extra paperwork and security. The surface navy needs a real torpedo, I hope we still don’t rely on the pathetic mk-48....


5 posted on 12/02/2014 7:37:23 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: C19fan

They were called “Squaws”. History doesn’t have revision.


6 posted on 12/02/2014 7:44:04 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: C19fan

small, sea-based remote drones will be the future of submarine warfare. Nukes are far too clumsy


7 posted on 12/02/2014 7:48:19 AM PST by PGR88
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To: lefty-lie-spy

How


8 posted on 12/02/2014 7:54:03 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: C19fan

+


9 posted on 12/02/2014 8:01:43 AM PST by xp38
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To: C19fan
"If he fires one, I'll fire one."

"FIRE ONE!"


10 posted on 12/02/2014 8:13:05 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Mr. K

A suspicious game warden confronted a fisherman as to why he always returned from the lake with his creel full of fish while other fishermen usually had only a few fish or came home empty-handed. So the fisherman invited him to go fishing with him.

Once they got out to the middle of the lake, the fisherman took out a stick of dynamite, lit it, and threw it into the water. When it exploded, dead fish floated to the surface, and the fisherman started scooping them up.

“That’s illegal” shouted the game warden. “I’m going to arrest you, and you’re going to jail!”

The fisherman then took out another stick of dynamite, lit it, and handed it to the game warden saying, “look, are you going to talk or are you going to fish?”


11 posted on 12/02/2014 8:22:27 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: C19fan

I’ve always been curious about the subject of nuclear depth-charges.

This answers those questions.

And the conclusions are not good for our submarine fleet, which is the most survivable of our nuclear deterrent triad. A mile-wide kill zone from a 30-kt device is not encouraging.

Damn.


12 posted on 12/02/2014 8:23:34 AM PST by DNME (Quietly carry concealed, at all times and places.)
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To: C19fan

I would like to see the original report on these tests. Although I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn last night, I am having a little trouble understanding how you can make water radioactive. The only remaining radioactivity should have been from the vaporized bomb casing itself. And these should have sunk as soon as they came back down to the surface.


13 posted on 12/02/2014 9:22:03 AM PST by G-Bear (I am NOT a "vigilante." I am an "undocumented police officer.")
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To: C19fan
I remember reading a rather serious back and forth discussion in the Naval Institute Proceedings Magazine back in the late 70's about sub-kiloton nuclear warheads for torpedoes.

The discussion centered around whether such a small nuclear warhead with a relatively small area of effect would trigger a full scale exchange of nuclear weapons.

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

14 posted on 12/02/2014 9:33:21 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Mr. K
Actually, underwater volcanoes create far larger explosions than any of our underwater nukes will ever create. I expect that landslides create even larger sonics than we will ever know.

Fish and mammals have survived far worse and still hear, feed and reproduce.

15 posted on 12/02/2014 9:49:12 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Yo-Yo

I’ve seen that movie but don’t remember the title! Damned good movie!


16 posted on 12/02/2014 1:20:52 PM PST by Antoninus II
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To: Antoninus II

The Bedford Incident.


17 posted on 12/02/2014 5:44:05 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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