[RocketMan1]

Their products are overpriced in terms of capability per dollar spent.

Exactly. I was forced to use a crApple computer at one of the places I was contracting. HATED that proprietary playskool computer! Couldn't wait to get back to my Linux and Windows machines where I could hack the hell out of and do what *I* want with it!

I love how crApple devotees that I have talked to are so adamant that crApple junk is "so much better and so easy to use." Thing is, most crApple fans that I have encountered could barely plug in and turn on a computer on their own. Hence the need for that playskool proprietary garbage.

Sorry. Not a fan!

[RocketMan1]

Then again .. I still have a fondness for DOS and UNIX commands, so ..

[angry elephant]

No big fan of Apple. Been using Windows since DOS 1. But after today with Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer putting in big bux in support of I-594 in Washington state, gungrabber’s initiative, I hope I never have to buy another Windows product ever.

[FredZarguna]

Full disclosure: I code mobile apps for PPC, 'droid, and iPhone. Ask any developer who makes money in the mobile space and he will tell you [sub Rosa, because Apple will actually ban your app if they discover you've bad-mouthed them in any way] that iEvil is just about the worst platform in the world to develop for.

The development toolchain is crap [state of the art for, like, 1987] and the cut Apple takes out of your net is disgusting.

How's this for evil: you want to develop an app to be used by you and only you, on your own phone? You must pay $100. Oh, plus $99 for the developer program. Or maybe $299 if you're a corporate developer. Or maybe, even more if your corporation provides your phone, in that case you must be bound to their B2B program for putting an app on your own phone. Oh yes, and by the way, you may not develop this app on anything but a Mac. Even a virtual machine running OSX will violate your developers agreement. If you criticize Apple for making you do that? It also violates your developer's agreement.

Essentially, if you develop for iOS, you become Apple's cubicle slave. If your software company develops for iPhone, they become a subsidiary of Apple.

Response from the fanbois: "There's nothing wrong with that. If you don't like it, don't have an iPhone." OK, that's just one of the many, many reasons that I don't.

[itsahoot]

Sorry. Not a fan!

No but you play loose with the truth. You can run Linux on any intel Mac as well as Windows, but an expert like yourself already knows that right?

[Swordmaker]

Exactly. I was forced to use a crApple computer at one of the places I was contracting. HATED that proprietary playskool computer! Couldn't wait to get back to my Linux and Windows machines where I could hack the hell out of and do what *I* want with it!

The only thing you have proved is your ignorance. You were given access to a powerful UNIX™ computer and you did not even know it. You decided in your ignorance that it was a "Playskool" Toy. How absurd. My Apple Mac runs TWO instances of Linux, Three different versions of Windows (XP, 7, and 8.1), all in sandboxes under OS X.10 Yosemite, and you don't have a clue about the power you had in your hands.

You were a couple keystrokes away from a UNIX™ Terminal that would give you the complete control over that Mac, capable of doing everything you could do and more, that you could do with your itty-bitty Linux ripped off copy of UNIX™. There are only four certified POSIX compliant registered and trademarked UNIX™ Operating Systems and the best selling one is Apple Mac OS X. THAT is what you had your hands on. . . and you described it as a "TOY." That makes you an idiot.

Then you go on to insult Mac users. Would you insult THESE Mac users, who have personally selected, and purchased these Mac computers, which is THEIR computer of choice because it is their "toy?" and overpriced because they love toys and paying too much, or perhaps, is it possible, they selected it because it is a powerful useful, scientific and engineering tool, the best tool for the job they do? I think they are smart enough to buy if for the latter reason. They are, I think, a LOT SMARTER THAN YOU!

NASA's Jet Propulsion Labs Mars Curiosity Rover Design and Landing Team
Gosh, RocketMan1, I see only two Windows PC computers in the entire room.


Let's look closer to be sure. Yup, those are MacBook Pro Notebook computers. . .
Oh, my gosh. Why do you suppose these NASA engineers are using "PlaySkool Computers?"


Just so you don't think these Macs are running Linux or Windows, you can see they are Running OS X.

I suppose, you think these Mac users, like me, can "barely plug in and turn on a computer on their own."

Me? I've owned and operated a cross platform computer consulting business for over 35 years. . . and know what I am talking about. . . and any one one who refers to Apple products as crApple, clearly does not. You are simply someone who is inexperienced with quality.

[ReignOfError]

I was forced to use a crApple computer at one of the places I was contracting. HATED that proprietary playskool computer! Couldn't wait to get back to my Linux and Windows machines where I could hack the hell out of and do what *I* want with it!

Don't blame the machine because you don't know how to use it. That "playskool computer" was running Unix. Not *ix. Not "Unix-like." Fully POSIX-compliant Unix.