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Virginia police can now force you to unlock your smartphone with your fingerprint
ZDNet Zero Day ^ | October 31, 2014 -- 13:59 GMT | By Zack Whittaker

Posted on 10/31/2014 2:57:14 PM PDT by Swordmaker

Virginia police can now force you to unlock your smartphone with your fingerprint

Summary: A circuit judge likened police forcing smartphone owners to unlock their device with a fingerprint akin to providing a DNA sample or an actual key.

Is nothing sacred anymore?

A Virginia circuit court judge ruled this week that smartphone users can be compelled to give up their fingerprint, but not their passcodes, allowing police to search their devices.

First reported by local Virginia news, the decision-making case in question surrounded a man charged with attempting to strangle his girlfriend. A video purporting to show the incident was on the defendant's phone, but his lawyer argued that handing over his passcodes would be in breach of his Fifth Amendment protections against self-incrimination.

But, a fingerprint — used by a number of devices, like the latest iPhones, iPads, and Samsung Galaxy phones and tablets — does not fall within these protections, which Judge Steven C. Frucci likened it to handing over a DNA sample.

Perhaps the irony is that fingerprint technology was meant to make devices more secure for consumers and enterprises alike, and not easier to gain access to by government agencies.

There is a caveat, however. If a device is locked by both a fingerprint and a passcode, the passcode wins, meaning the device is protected.

It comes just a few weeks after Apple and Google announced steps to ensure that their iOS and Android devices come offer default encryption to prevent government agencies from seeking out their complicity in unlocking devices.

The two mobile phone making giants made the move after government surveillance details were leaked by former U.S. contractor Edward Snowden.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: cellphone; constitution; police; smartphone; virginia
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1 posted on 10/31/2014 2:57:14 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
Virginia Circuit Court Judge rules police can force you to use your fingerprint to open your phone "It's the same as taking your fingerprint for ID purposes." — PING!


Apple iPhone Security Ping!

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2 posted on 10/31/2014 2:59:54 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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So does this mean if you have a biometric lock on your front door they can force you to open it so they can rummage through your domicile?

It's the same, exact principle.

3 posted on 10/31/2014 3:00:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: Swordmaker

I don’t use fingerprint smartphone locking. Nevertheless, there is one finger I would be happy to show these guys.


4 posted on 10/31/2014 3:00:35 PM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So does this mean if you have a biometric lock on your front door they can force you to open it so they can rummage through your domicile? It's the same, exact principle.

With a search warrant, they can break the door down. So yes, this is the same exact principle.

5 posted on 10/31/2014 3:04:00 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Swordmaker

Another communists liberal judge.


6 posted on 10/31/2014 3:06:12 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: yorkiemom; null and void; laplata; Gluteus Maximus; Salvavida; Foundahardheadedwoman; baddog 219; ..

CWII Spark Ping — Another “we don’t need no stinkin` warrant!”-style ruling.


7 posted on 10/31/2014 3:06:23 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Swordmaker

The authorities can make force your finger on your smartphone, but they can’t force you to stay home under quarantine.


8 posted on 10/31/2014 3:12:11 PM PDT by Heartlander2
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To: OneWingedShark
Another “we don’t need no stinkin` warrant!”-style ruling.

Nope.

Doesn't say it can be done without a warrant.

In fact, the Supreme Court has already ruled that it can't be: Police examination of cell phones without a warrant is a violation of the Fourth Amendment, unanimous, 9-0, Riley v. California (06/25/2014).

9 posted on 10/31/2014 3:17:19 PM PDT by FredZarguna (His first name is 'Unarmed,' and his given middle name is 'Teenager.')
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To: Swordmaker

They already legally own your assets, your work products, and even your physical person. But they want to own your mind most of all...


10 posted on 10/31/2014 3:19:28 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: Swordmaker

Does this mean I need to require a passcode AND the fingerprint if I want to protect the phone from prying eyes of lawless cops?


11 posted on 10/31/2014 3:25:04 PM PDT by Defiant (4 main US grps: conservatives, useless idiots (aka RINOs), marxists and useful idiots (aka liberals))
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To: Swordmaker

At least with a PIN, you can say you forgot it ...


12 posted on 10/31/2014 3:27:10 PM PDT by hemogoblin
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To: Defiant

It means Apple needs to let users designate a different one of their fingers to switch the phone into pass code required to unlock mode.


13 posted on 10/31/2014 3:30:05 PM PDT by csivils
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To: csivils

I would use the pinky toe on my left foot! Good luck coppers!


14 posted on 10/31/2014 3:40:17 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Defiant

Not lawless. Lawful...after they’ve gotten a warrant, which is what the ruling is about.


15 posted on 10/31/2014 3:41:21 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

They won’t be happy until you enthusiastically celebrate their tyranny and perversion.


16 posted on 10/31/2014 3:47:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Polling: The art of determining how badly the people have been duped by the last poll.)
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To: Swordmaker

Dumb judge...iOS 8/iPhone requires the passcode (not fingerprint) after reboots/power offs...just power off your phone if police are coming your way...problem solved!


17 posted on 10/31/2014 4:05:32 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Swordmaker

Always turn phone completely OFF when being pulled over so touch doesn’t work till passcode is entered. Doesn’t touch, not used after 24 or 48 hours require passcode entry as well ?


18 posted on 10/31/2014 4:09:57 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Drago

half a minute post ....:o)


19 posted on 10/31/2014 4:11:04 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Drago

plus 4 minutes ....doh !


20 posted on 10/31/2014 4:11:51 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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