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California Outlaws Plastic Bags And Ignores The Scientific Evidence
Forbes ^ | 10/22/2014 | Stephen DeMaura

Posted on 10/23/2014 4:08:41 PM PDT by Rusty0604

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To: Inyo-Mono

Enjoy. :)


41 posted on 10/23/2014 6:56:04 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Our obligations to our country never cease but with our lives.- John Adams)
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To: Inyo-Mono

My pleasure :-)


42 posted on 10/23/2014 7:24:27 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: Rusty0604
They also pushed gasoline additives that turned out to not do anything other than make gas more expensive.

Worse than that, the additive MTBE has polluted groundwater. Of course the oil companies that were FORCED to use it are now being sued to repair the damage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTBE_controversy

43 posted on 10/23/2014 7:31:29 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

I hear they are going to outlaw toilet paper next unless it reusable.


44 posted on 10/23/2014 8:07:04 PM PDT by oldasrocks (They should lock all of you up and only let out us properly medicated people.)
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To: Rusty0604

...researchers have tracked a 5-percent increase in death from food-borne illness.

Liberals kill!


45 posted on 10/23/2014 9:35:25 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Fast Moving Angel

#32 You paid 2 cents a piece and the seller made a profit. Just how big a profit are the grocery stores making with getting 10 cents a paper bag and the amount of kickbacks to the politicians?


46 posted on 10/23/2014 9:41:08 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: MeganC
I wish I could say I opposed this but here we live two miles from the main road and we see plastic bags on the barbwire fence all the time. They’re not ours, they’re not our neighbors, so they must have blown in from who knows where. As much as I enjoy the convenience of these bags I’d be okay with having my own bags or using paper.

Did you miss the comments about the difference in energy/environmental costs when it comes to processing paper/vs plastic? How about the increased bacterial infections with reusable bags (my wife has a number and we do a load of them in the washer every time she shops - more energy costs involved)? Then, the next question begging to be asked is, "How much freedom/convenience are you willing to abide by being compliant to a host of rules and regulations that make some folks feel the warm fuzzies (some of the effects are not malignant - perhaps you would see fewer discards), but which actually have more harmful side effects than many of the 'miracle medicines' being touted on TV these days?" Many of the left-wing infringements on our Freedom have come from laws that were touted as having good side effects, but they usually have one good side effect to a handful of bad ones.

47 posted on 10/24/2014 2:17:00 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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As someone else pointed out it was a leftist agenda that created the plastic bags to begin with. Effectively this undoes a leftist agenda and if Congress acts appropriately it can be made to put American loggers and lumber mills back to work.


48 posted on 10/24/2014 8:40:29 AM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: MeganC
As someone else pointed out it was a leftist agenda that created the plastic bags to begin with. Effectively this undoes a leftist agenda and if Congress acts appropriately it can be made to put American loggers and lumber mills back to work.

Can't argue with that, but it avoids the point of my post. While almost all leftist agendas have more downsides than upsides, it doesn't necessarily follow that they all need to be eradicated totally. The fact that it's leftists imposing the removal of plastic bags might also give one pause as to the real reason behind it - the erosion of our Freedoms comes to mind as the main reasoning behind nearly all their agendas.

49 posted on 10/24/2014 11:12:30 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Just how big a profit are the grocery stores making with getting 10 cents a paper bag and the amount of kickbacks to the politicians?

Good question. The article says that potential profits to the grocery companies are $1 billion by supporting the bag ban and cutting a deal to retain all the bag fees, but doesn't say how it was calculated. Even spread over the number of grocery companies in California, that's still not chump change. But now you've got me wondering -- how many hundreds of thousands of bags do the stores use in a year (and multiply that times 10 cents, deduct maybe 1-2 cents for cost)? I may ask my local store's manager about this when I see him next.

50 posted on 10/24/2014 2:37:58 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: Rusty0604

Cali pols seem to revel in making themselves laughingstocks.


51 posted on 10/25/2014 6:48:26 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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