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Anger at the Facebook fortress: Neighbors hit out at Zuckerberg's $10million noisy mansion..
UK Daily Mail ^ | September 23, 2014 | Wills Robinson

Posted on 09/23/2014 7:27:55 AM PDT by C19fan

Neighbours surrounding Mark Zuckerberg's $10million home in San Francisco say construction work is causing constant disruptions, taking up parking spaces and causing huge amounts of noise. The six-bedroom luxury house in Dolores Park is one of four properties the billionaire Facebook founder has reportedly bought in the area near his Silicon Valley office. Building work on the 1920s property the 30-year-old purchased with his wife Priscilla Chan has been going on for nearly 17 months - sparking a series of complaints from nearby residents.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: elite; facebook; zuckerberg
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Our new aristocracy.
1 posted on 09/23/2014 7:27:55 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
Our new aristocracy.

By definition aristocracies involve inherited status. Zuckerberg certainly didn't rise out of the gutter, but he is a self-made man. Isn't that the opposite of an aristocrat?

2 posted on 09/23/2014 7:47:23 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: C19fan
I'd wager the shirt on my back that not a single individual working on hat house have legal authority to take paid (or unpaid) employment in the US.
3 posted on 09/23/2014 7:47:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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To: Alter Kaker
Isn't that the opposite of an aristocrat?

Try getting within 1,000 yards of his house and then talk to us about his aristocratic attitudes.

4 posted on 09/23/2014 7:49:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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To: Alter Kaker

By definition aristocracies involve inherited status. Zuckerberg certainly didn’t rise out of the gutter, but he is a self-made man. Isn’t that the opposite of an aristocrat?

________________

Actually he is one of the Government Made men.


5 posted on 09/23/2014 7:51:05 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Alter Kaker

http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/35653/A-Leading-Entrepreneur-Misleads-His-Readers/

In the article excerpted above, Mr. Thiel makes many lucid points, at least hypothetically, about how to generate a successful startup. Like John D. Rockefeller, he seems to believe it boils down to “competition is a sin.” Here’s more: Google makes so much money that it is now worth three times more than every U.S. airline combined. The airlines compete with each other, but Google stands alone. ... In 2001, my co-workers at PayPal and I would often get lunch on Castro Street in Mountain View, Calif. We had our pick of restaurants, starting with obvious categories like Indian, sushi and burgers. There were more options once we settled on a type: North Indian or South Indian, cheaper or fancier, and so on. In contrast to the competitive local restaurant market, PayPal was then the only email-based payments company in the world. We employed fewer people than the restaurants on Castro Street did, but our business was much more valuable than all those restaurants combined. Starting a new South Indian restaurant is a really hard way to make money. If you lose sight of competitive reality and focus on trivial differentiating factors—maybe you think your naan is superior because of your great-grandmother’s recipe—your business is unlikely to survive. ... A monopoly like Google is different. Since it doesn’t have to worry about competing with anyone, it has wider latitude to care about its workers, its products and its impact on the wider world. Google’s motto—”Don’t be evil”—is in part a branding ploy, but it is also characteristic of a kind of business that is successful enough to take ethics seriously without jeopardizing its own existence. In business, money is either an important thing or it is everything. Monopolists can afford to think about things other than making money; non-monopolists can’t. In perfect competition, a business is so focused on today’s margins that it can’t possibly plan for a long-term future. Only one thing can allow a business to transcend the daily brute struggle for survival: monopoly profits. ... Monopoly is the condition of every successful business. Tolstoy famously opens “Anna Karenina” by observing: “All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.” Business is the opposite. All happy companies are different: Each one earns a monopoly by solving a unique problem. All failed companies are the same: They failed to escape competition. Despite Mr. Thiel’s track record of success and the eloquence of his article, we have problems with his hypothesis. Let’s use Google as an example. It’s one we’ve mentioned before, here: Trillion Dollar Google: The Myth of Capitalist Enterprise In this article we quoted a post at Pando.com that delved into the historical roots of Google’s success as follows: The company funds privacy think tanks, opposes secret wiretaps and has been very critical of government surveillance in the wake of Edward Snowden’s NSA leaks ... Google’s big principled stance against surveillance is honorable — or it would be, if the company wasn’t so deeply involved in the very thing that it claims to be against ... Google makes its billions by spying on people for profit: it funnels as much of our online and digital activities through its own networks and compiles detailed dossiers on hundreds of millions of Internet users all over the globe. But what few people realize is that Google has also been using its wares to enhance and enrich the surveillance operations of the biggest and most powerful intelligence and DoD agencies in the world: NSA, FBI, CIA, DEA and NGA — the whole alphabet soup. And we’re not just talking about giving spies access to Gmail, Google Drive or Google search. Google offers these agencies a whole range of customized services to organize and integrate their vast and disparate intelligence streams. Some of Google’s partnerships with the intelligence community are so close and cooperative, and have been going on for so long, that it’s not easy to discern where Google Inc ends and government spook operations begin. This is the issue we have with Mr. Thiel’s analysis. He wants us to believe that Google’s success came from starting a business that created a natural monopoly. But, in fact, such monopolies are fairly artificial creatures and in the current business environment of the US, success stories like Google mostly seem possible if they support the needs and goals of the military-industrial complex. Google is also supported by patent law and copyright law. In other words, its intellectual property is protected by the force of the state. Finally, Google is supported by corporate personhood. Its leaders are not really exposed to bad decisions. They can hide behind the corporate veil and pay corporate penalties for bad decisions instead of suffering personal consequences. Mr. Thiel wants us to believe that Google’s success comes from a natural monopoly. But this is obviously not so. Without the protections of the state, the marketplace itself would have long since diminished Google’s astounding success. Also, there are penalties to be paid when one is protected by the state. Google and other top Silicon Valley firms like Microsoft have the support of the US government but that doesn’t extend around the world. Here, from an article published early this year in The New York Times: Revelations of N.S.A. Spying Cost U.S. Tech Companies ... Microsoft has lost customers, including the government of Brazil. IBM is spending more than a billion dollars to build data centers overseas to reassure foreign customers that their information is safe from prying eyes in the United States government. And tech companies abroad, from Europe to South America, say they are gaining customers that are shunning United States providers, suspicious because of the revelations by Edward J. Snowden that tied these providers to the National Security Agency’s vast surveillance program. ... It is impossible to see now the full economic ramifications of the spying disclosures — in part because most companies are locked in multiyear contracts — but the pieces are beginning to add up as businesses question the trustworthiness of American technology products. ... Despite the tech companies’ assertions that they provide information on their customers only when required under law — and not knowingly through a back door — the perception that they enabled the spying program has lingered. “It’s clear to every single tech company that this is affecting their bottom line,” said Daniel Castro, a senior analyst at the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, who predicted that the United States cloud computing industry could lose $35 billion by 2016. Forrester Research, a technology research firm, said the losses could be as high as $180 billion, or 25 percent of industry revenue, based on the size of the cloud computing, web hosting and outsourcing markets and the worst case for damages. US multinational corporations are not just coddled by the military-industrial complex. All very large US companies are built on exclusionist copyright and patent law, and the judicial force of corporate personhood as well. Mr. Thiel makes numerous points about the way one goes about being successful in the corporate world circa the 21st century, but it seems to us that he leaves out fundamental “real world” principles. - See more at: http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/35653/A-Leading-Entrepreneur-Misleads-His-Readers/#sthash.1C8qnmI0.dpuf


6 posted on 09/23/2014 7:54:08 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: C19fan

He’s raising property values.


7 posted on 09/23/2014 7:57:34 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Chickensoup

Uh, oh, here they come! It’s the Paragraph Police!


8 posted on 09/23/2014 7:59:08 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: C19fan
That construction work has to have permits or it can be stopped. What a shame the elite of San Francisco have to suffer something all too common for us little folk. That would be having to endure stupid construction projects that tend to enrich those who approve of them.

It's hard to imagine why Zuckerman, with all of his money, would pay to live in an exclusive neighborhood, then do things that destroy it. There must be some serious stuff going on in that mind of his.

JMHO

9 posted on 09/23/2014 7:59:51 AM PDT by grania
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To: Chickensoup

Made on the backs (minds) of others as well.


10 posted on 09/23/2014 8:00:06 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Alter Kaker

Hey, you want to hang out with Liberals, you bear the brunt of their hate-the-rich-guy attitudes.

I have no sympathy for him.


11 posted on 09/23/2014 8:01:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Fresh Wind
1-Adam-12 -

1-Adam-12 -

- reports of unreadable paragraph, multiple headaches, burning eyes.

- proceed with indignation.

12 posted on 09/23/2014 8:34:13 AM PDT by warsaw44
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Across the street from me, a guy bought a house on about 8 acres. Had a perfectly good house knocked down and is building some kind of monstrosity. Building has been going on for over a year and it is beginning to get annoying. People who have met the owner say he’s a jerk.


13 posted on 09/23/2014 8:37:56 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Chickensoup

This was an interesting article but became ludicrous when it called patent protection protection by force of the state.

Private property is now considered force of the state?

Has the author ever read, or does he believe in, the Constitution?


14 posted on 09/23/2014 8:44:50 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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I disagree on patent protection in part but I agree with everything else.


15 posted on 09/23/2014 8:50:31 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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Actually he is one of the Government Made men.

How so? Does the gov't make people use facebook?

16 posted on 09/23/2014 11:02:07 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Try getting within 1,000 yards of his house and then talk to us about his aristocratic attitudes.

I'm not sure I understand your point. I have no interest in going to his house, but I think you can be a jerk to your neighbors (or anybody else) without being an aristocrat -- aristocracy suggests some kind of inherited position.

17 posted on 09/23/2014 11:03:49 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: C19fan

18 posted on 09/23/2014 11:14:54 AM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: Alter Kaker

How so? Does the gov’t make people use facebook?

___________________

Of course not, but the government pays facebook


19 posted on 09/23/2014 11:42:27 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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taste in architecture is similar to taste in art. If the monstrosity fits the jerk’s personality, I empathize with you. I am a visual person and would go nuts living near a gross monster house. Little ones can be ignored, big ones make me want to get a friend of mine who is a Marine tanker to do me a favor.


20 posted on 09/23/2014 12:35:55 PM PDT by huldah1776
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