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1 posted on 09/23/2014 6:28:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes.


2 posted on 09/23/2014 6:33:17 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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I have read that parents who don’t spank yell more. Kids eyes will glaze over while they wait for the rant to end, learning nothing and not changing the behavior.


3 posted on 09/23/2014 6:37:14 AM PDT by NorthstarMom
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The one time I got the belt I had black-and-blue marks for a week...

It’s been 40 years and I STILL won’t tell a lie to my Father.

Used appropriately, negative physical feedback can be very effective. Used too much, and it can have an opposite effect as we see in cases of generational abuse.


4 posted on 09/23/2014 6:37:21 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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But what also could be true is that the streets may not have been so mean if they were not populated by so many kids who are angry at the world because, among other things, they were spanked.

This brain trust is completely disregarding the effect that the kids' social group has on their attitude. IMHO spanking was not meted out often enough, nor to the right subject.

5 posted on 09/23/2014 6:37:39 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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“spanking inhibits the learning process . . . It leads to anger, depression, violence and alcohol and drug abuse. It breeds hostility toward authority . . . and spawns other antisocial behaviors.” Physical punishment, he continues “is associated with legions of sullen, angry, violence-prone boys . . . ” “

Evidence, please. (not poster, the person quoted).

I was spanked rarely and rarely spanked, but when I was or did, it was because other methods failed to work or the bad behavior was such that it could get someone killed (or worse).

Last resort, never in anger, rare, but sometimes necessary.


6 posted on 09/23/2014 6:39:35 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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Punishment needs to be effective to create self-discipline in children. Spanking does that. I’m not sure whether there are more effective ways for most parents to instill that self-discipline. I suspect there may be but whether there are or not, its better to spank and have a child who can control himself or herself and be responsible for his or her own actions than a wild little terror who grows up to be irresponsible, lazy, unproductive and a net drain on society and his or her family.


7 posted on 09/23/2014 6:40:17 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a difference between a spanking and a beating.


8 posted on 09/23/2014 6:43:33 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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What Adrian Peterson did was not spanking and he should be kicked out of the NFL and put in jail.


10 posted on 09/23/2014 6:47:38 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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Usually I agree w/ Ms. Charen, however equating a spanking to verbal abuse or generalizing it as "violence" is silly. Of course you shouldn't beat a kid and leave wounds on them. A few measured swats on the behind can hardly be called "beating".

As with anything a parent must mete out punishment in calmer moments, not when you're angry. With my own kids I think spankings are best used for immediate behavior modification, and not as punishment per se. And thankfully I rarely have to do it.

What we have here is the same situation we have with the use of guns, food, and cold medicine: Because a few people abuse something then EVERYONE must stop doing it immediately, or their liberties MUST be stifled with more laws.

14 posted on 09/23/2014 6:59:00 AM PDT by opus86
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Didn’t we just go through this about a week ago?


16 posted on 09/23/2014 7:04:15 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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I’ve just finished the draft for a book, regarding kids who totally own their parents.

Spanking is discussed as an option, along with about 60 other things a parent can do to subdue an incorrigible child. Just be wise about it.


20 posted on 09/23/2014 7:12:29 AM PDT by lurk
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The proper answer to this is that it is not a topic to be discussed in public. The father is the Biblical, God-appointed head of the household. In that domain, the father is answerable ONLY to God. No person has a right to interfere or inquire.

Women who feel the father goes to far can and do leave. But they must be sure that the threat to then merits the consequences for stepping out of the authority of the husband. Women are required by God to submit to their husbands and so breaking that covenant should never be done lightly. It should be rare and done only in extreme circumstances. The 50% divorce rate of today is a sign that women have been taught by feminism to rebel against God.

Regardless of what happens, all details should be kept within the family, save the participation of trusted clergyman who is right with God.


21 posted on 09/23/2014 7:14:16 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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My kids are nearly grown and I have never had to spank them or yell too much. (nag a little, maybe (:)

Not that I am parent of the year but I think the key thing is actually enjoying and liking your children. There isn't anyone on the planet I'd rather be with more than my kids.

22 posted on 09/23/2014 7:14:43 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes.


23 posted on 09/23/2014 7:21:36 AM PDT by bgill
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“Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him.” -Proverb

It is better for parents to discipline a child early than to see that child disciplined by police later on.

The current powers in federal government give much evidence that they did not experience discipline when it was most needed.


24 posted on 09/23/2014 7:54:11 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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My son is 8.5 and I ‘ve only had whoop his butt 3 times,,, he is a better person because of them..
It called deterrence.


27 posted on 09/23/2014 8:05:34 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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spanking is fine unless/until you start liking it too much


31 posted on 09/23/2014 8:15:44 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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A lot of parenting is about children learning that the parents are in control of them, not vice versa (as they seem to learn in school).

There are a lot of ways to demonstrate control, including spanking. However, if you beat the crap out of your kid, you only show him that you cannot control your anger.


36 posted on 09/23/2014 8:28:37 AM PDT by neocon1984
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My answer is yes. I spanked my boys.
I didn’t bum-rush them through the door into the garage and across the hood of the car, though. I considered that just slightly out of bounds.


42 posted on 09/23/2014 10:11:42 AM PDT by HiJinx (An armed society, and all that...)
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IMHO, a direct parallel to the Judicial revolving-door....do the crime, do the time, get out and start the process over again. If there is NO punishment (I don’t consider ‘time’ in a stocked gym with A/C, 3 squares, etc. ‘detrimental’), why worry?


44 posted on 09/23/2014 10:32:19 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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