Autopsy question

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[airedale]

During the first autopsy after all the far tests and initial examination for trace evidence the body is washed including the bullet wound areas. The second autopsy is is only done after the first autopsy is completed and the body is released to the family. The second autopsy claims no far was found on the body. My question is would the washing of the body done in the first autopsy as well as other procedures remove the far trace. If so the claim the was no far by the Brown family team would be misleading at best.

[knittnmom]

“far test”? What is that? Thank you.

[House Atreides]

I believe he is referring to gunshot cartridge residue on the skin.

[Boogieman]

Firearm residue, I think?

[Responsibility2nd]

I'm wondering if English is his first language....

If so the claim the was no far by the Brown family team would be misleading at best.

[rolling_stone]

it appears the second autopsy was performed by other than a medical doctor -misdemeanor in Missouri

http://fox4kc.com/2014/08/19/shawn-parcells-credentials-role-in-michael-brown-autopsy-questioned-by-doctors/

[airedale]

Meant GSR stupid auto correct which changed it when I hit enter to post. GSR = Gun Shot Residue

[knittnmom]

Ah! Makes much more sense now! Thank you!

[Bringbackthedraft]

Sme times the connection from the brain to the fingers and then to teh kyeboard skps a little. Especially amongst us older folks. ;)

[airedale]

It is, but it’s not my pads first language and it has a tendency to change things when you hit enter if it thinks you spelled the word wrong.

[Rockingham]

Even if superficial trace evidence is absent, a second autopsy can be expected to verify the number, placement, and track of the bullet wounds and may also yield samples for toxicology testing. Moreover, the pathologist conducting a second autopsy may obtain notes and test results from the first autopsy and integrate them into his analysis.

In this instance, the second autopsy doctor, Michael Baden, is a justly well-regarded pathologist and seems unlikely to risk his reputation by cooking up autopsy conclusions to satisfy the media or the Brown family.

[Responsibility2nd]

lolol. Thanks for explaining. I thought maybe....

 

[Responsibility2nd]

Ooops. Meant to post to you.

See? Even my computer went the wrong direction.

[Bringbackthedraft]

Hey, that’s our cat you have in the photo!

[Ben Mugged]

Gunshot residue particles can be removed easily from the surfaces they land on. Regular activities, such as putting hands in pockets, rubbing hands together, or handling items, can wipe them away.4 The washing of hands can remove most, if not all, particles. Rates of loss vary widely with the activity of the subject. Depending on conditions and activity, particles may be removed from a shooter’s hands within 4 to 5 hours after a shooting event.5 They also can transfer from a surface or person to another individual; the amount depends on the number of GSR particles on the contaminated surface (e.g., a person’s clothing or hands) and likely will be a small percentage of the total number of particles present.

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/may_2011/The%20Current%20Status%20of%20GSR%20Examinations

[Responsibility2nd]

Yeah? With them big paws (and claws)...

You better be nice to it.

[JoeDetweiler]

Are you talking about residue around Mike Brown’s wounds? Or about residue on Mike Brown’s hands?

If you’re talking about the wounds...

First, the lack of gunpowder residue works in favor of the policeman, because it shows that Mike Brown was not shot at close range, execution style.

Second, the body shots would leave residue on the clothes. And the clothes had better not have been washed.

If you’re talking about Mr Brown’s hands...

The lack of residue would indicate that Mr Brown’s hands were not on the gun when it fired. But as far as I know, no one is saying his hand was on the gun. It has been suggested that the gun fired while the two men were struggling, but that is not the same thing as saying that Mr Brown pulled the trigger. And we haven’t yet heard the policeman’s version of the events. At least not officially and in full.

[IronJack]

According to testimony I’ve seen, Wilson’s sidearm discharged initially while he and Brown were struggling over it. Since Wilson was still in the cruiser at that point, the spent cartridge should still be in the vehicle as well.

But where did that bullet go? Did it strike Brown? Did the slide abrade Brown’s hand? Did the round strike inside the cruiser?

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

“far test”? What is that? Thank you.

I think he meant GSR. Gunshot residue.

[Rockingham]

I have wondered about that myself. If a bullet track can be established showing a weapon discharge inside the police cruiser, it would provide physical evidence backing Officer Wilson’s account.