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Turner Classic Movies Schedule | 30 July 2014 | Chainmail

Posted on 07/30/2014 6:49:04 AM PDT by Chainmail

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To: NFHale

Just ordered the book for a buck on Amazon, thank you very much!


101 posted on 07/30/2014 10:33:58 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

My pleasure, ma’am!

Ronnie was “da Mensch!”


102 posted on 07/30/2014 10:34:46 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: miss marmelstein

I saw her in a KFC in Fayettville.Tiny thing

in holey blue jeans with two big black body guards.

She was in town for a FTA rally.Not fool the army.

We were warned not to attend.I told the Top I saw

the little traitor the night before and that was

more than enough for me.

She caused the deaths of many GI`s encourging the commies.


103 posted on 07/30/2014 3:05:56 PM PDT by Harold Shea
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To: Harold Shea

She’s now what people call a “lollipop head.” That means a huge head followed by a teeny, weeny body. It comes from excessive and ludicrous dieting of old hags who no one looks at anymore. Silly woman.


104 posted on 07/30/2014 3:10:23 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Lolipop head..like it.

Probably hurts her more to be called that

than traitor.


105 posted on 07/30/2014 3:33:04 PM PDT by Harold Shea
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To: Harold Shea

She’ll probably be doing her annual apology tour (”I’m not a traitor, really - it was my bastard ex-husband Tom who sent me there!”) Which, actually, is true. Tom sent her over there with - I think - a Russian passport - while he sat at home worrying that he wouldn’t get elected to office if he was seen sitting on a Vietnamese rocket launcher.


106 posted on 07/30/2014 3:37:43 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Unfortunately, you’re mistaken. Jane Fonda was involved in radical pro-enemy garbage long before she even met Hayden. She wasn’t a “poor mistaken actress” - she was a hard-eyed activist fully dedicated to the defeat of the United States. I had occasion to meet her momentarily in 1970 and she was real viper - she knew exactly what she was doing - and she viscerally hated Vietnam Veterans, even the ones “on her side” like John Kerry. She hated our country and gave support and comfort to our enemies. She knew exactly what she was doing.

And that wasn’t a rocket launcher - it was a Soviet-made 37mm antiaircraft cannon.


107 posted on 07/30/2014 4:05:22 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Thought her radicalism was even before Hayden.

That picture on her sighting on that 37mm still burns me.


108 posted on 07/30/2014 4:22:12 PM PDT by Harold Shea
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To: Chainmail

Well, if you bothered to read through my numerous posts you would have found out that I know all about Jane Fonda’s history. Her radicalization began under Yves Montand and Simone Signoret during her marriage to Roger Vadim. Those two wrecked the life of Jean Seberg and had a devastating effect on Marilyn Monroe. Educate yourself!

The rocket launcher was a joke.

I’m sick of you jerky Fonda haters attacking me for hating Fonda. You are all a bunch of humorless bores who need to learn something about irony and sarcasm. I said SHE SAID that she was a victim of Hayden. No where did I say I believed her.


109 posted on 07/30/2014 4:30:33 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Here's what you said exactly: "She’ll probably be doing her annual apology tour (”I’m not a traitor, really - it was my bastard ex-husband Tom who sent me there!”) Which, actually, is true. Tom sent her over there with - I think - a Russian passport - while he sat at home worrying that he wouldn’t get elected to office if he was seen sitting on a Vietnamese rocket launcher."

Please point out that parts where I misquoted you or where you indicated that you were joking.

As far as me being a "Jerky Fonda Hater" I am also a disabled combat veteran of the Vietnam War. I probably have more skin in the game than you do - literally. If you can't be courteous and you can't tell the difference between a rocket launcher and a cannon, maybe being silent for a while would be more appropriate.

110 posted on 07/30/2014 5:54:50 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

You have consistently and purposely misinterpreted my posts - now you’ve taken my words “jerky Fonda hater” out of context. I called you a jerky Fonda hater for hating on me as a Fonda hater. I’ll go toe to toe with you any day on disliking that woman.

Also, you said that I believed Fonda only took up radical politics when she met up with Tom Hayden. While it is true that he was behind her going to Viet Nam she was deeply involved in radical politics at least by 1969. I was in college at the time and remembered her weird transformation from Barbarella to a cropped-haired radical. After listening to Simone Signoret at about this time who told her to go to India to find out what “real” poverty was like, Fonda took off to Bombay by herself and didn’t like what she saw. Somehow - just like Jean Seberg - this got transformed into hating America. I wonder if the Montands paid for all these starlets trips to India...

You also implied that I thought she was a victim somehow - something to the effect of being a dewey-eyed actress - I don’t have the exact quote in front of me. That thought never entered my mind. She was completely in control of her actions although I do believe her when she wrote that Hayden was a coward for not going to Hanoi with her. In this, I think she’s telling the truth.

Thank you for your service but not knowing a rocket launcher, cannon or other military equipment does not turn me into a Fonda-lover. I have made jokes about Fonda consistently throughout this thread - as have others. Humor, also, does not turn me into a Fonda-lover.


111 posted on 07/30/2014 6:28:27 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

You may be mistaking me for somebody else - I have only responded to you twice and I haven’t the smallest impression of you as a “Fonda lover”.

Ah contraire: you definitely have your heart in the right place. My only slight lapse in control was the jerky Fonda hater thing. It’s possible that you’re right, but it’s not necessarily a diplomatic form of exchange.

Um, if I may disagree with something you said earlier, Barbarella wasn’t really much of an attention grabber for me. It was based on a weird French comic book and even in my full teenage screaming hormones mode, she looked liked an average-looking girl in odd costumes. Not that inspirational, if you follow my drift. We males aren’t really that desperate, are we?


112 posted on 07/30/2014 6:48:29 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
At the top right now is pissing on Hanoi Jane's grave

I'll be in that line waiting my turn. And there's a few others I hope to outlive.

113 posted on 07/30/2014 7:03:58 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Chainmail

Well, let’s drop the whole thing now because I don’t want any more guys yelling at me because I made a tiny joke about Barberella six hours ago. And yes, it’s true, you only made two replies to me. I will say that I think Jane had a very good figure as a young woman in the 60s. One little secret: you will rarely if ever see her without either boots or leg warmers because she has thick ankles. Not Hillary ankles but not thin either. Good night.


114 posted on 07/30/2014 7:06:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Count me as more of a Natalie Wood fan in those days, shape-wise..
Good night..


115 posted on 07/30/2014 7:10:36 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Gosh, good night, too, but Natalie Wood was one of the most gorgeous women in Hollywood.


116 posted on 07/30/2014 7:16:18 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Yes, Ma'am. Her sister Lana was a lovely lady too - and she wrote a personal letter to one of our howitzer gunners in our battery in Vietnam and that guy was the envy of all of us...

Like I said, why put up with marginal and unpatriotic when you can have stunning and supportive?

117 posted on 07/31/2014 3:42:31 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

LOL... Lesie Old Lillie


118 posted on 07/31/2014 5:38:51 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Chainmail
Can anyone imagine what would have happened to anyone who had traveled to Nazi Germany during the war, made treasonous broadcasts on Radio Berlin, and then encouraged revolt against our government when he or she returned?

"Axis Sally" did this, was subsequently prosecuted as a traitor, spent years in prison, then became a private school teacher.

119 posted on 08/01/2014 5:35:01 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: a fool in paradise
My point exactly: Jane should have been tried for treason. Instead, TCM is honoring her today, she has made millions on her different business deals, and she remains free.

The difference was that our war, the Vietnam War wasn't important enough to our leaders to actually fight. It was OK for us, "somebody else's kids" to get maimed and killed - but they never felt that we were important enough to actually support. We were just Kleenex: something you use and then throw away.

Seeing Jane Fonda honored (and Bill Ayers on talk shows, and John Kerry as a senior statesman) is a vivid reminder of how unimportant we really were.

120 posted on 08/01/2014 6:48:24 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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