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50 Years Ago At The Indy 500 - Fire, Death, and a GREAT race!
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Posted on 05/24/2014 5:02:09 PM PDT by Loud Mime

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To: Arlis

I love the excitement of racing; the speed, sounds and feeling. I also liked Hockey when Gretzky played: fast and classy.

Jimmy Clark’s death was sad. But Jochen Rindt’s just spoiled racing for me for some time. I still like drag racing, because you see the entire race and its tremendous power.

There has been a special floating around on cable TV about the changes in Grand Prix safety from the Clark, Rindt days. It’s worth watching.


41 posted on 05/24/2014 8:15:14 PM PDT by Loud Mime (arguetheconstitution.com Check it out.)
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To: tophat9000
Yea knew it well my uncle use to race with Parnell out at old Ascot in So Cal

Jones started out in a '34 Ford jalopy. "Whoa Nelly" Jalopy racing was popular in So. Cal.

42 posted on 05/24/2014 8:17:09 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Arlis

I was a crew member for 20 yrs,
shook hands with Louie Myer thru Tony Stewart,
I stood on the winners podium with Arie Lyendyck and went to Scotty Braytons
funeral.

Many emotions but never,ever,
SHAME !


43 posted on 05/24/2014 8:37:14 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Big Red Badger

“I stood on the winners podium with Arie Lyendyck “

Were you there when he and AJ got into it?


44 posted on 05/24/2014 8:43:57 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: PastorBooks

If you don’t want to take a chance of dying, don’t drive a race car!

I’ve always taken the attitude that if it saves time, or you can win the race and have a 50% chance of survival, I DO IT!!!

safety is for cowards!

i’ve busted myself up a lot of times but i’m still here at 76.


45 posted on 05/24/2014 9:01:42 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

can’t say that I recall that,,


46 posted on 05/24/2014 9:18:02 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I remember the look in Al Jr’s. face when he didn’t make the show driving Roger Penskes car


47 posted on 05/24/2014 9:25:09 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: PastorBooks

by that logic nobody should drivecars anywhere anymore. thousands die on roads every year either by ther own stupidity, someone else’s or totally by unfortunate accident.

also all pools will be shut down, no more going in the ocean, bathtubs and jacuzzis are banned, no plane travel, boat travel, no motorcycles, no horse riding, etc etc. because when somebody dies, it’s time for a re-think.


48 posted on 05/24/2014 9:25:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PastorBooks
i've been present for three driver deaths, Francois Cevert, Helmuth Koinigg and J. D. McDuffie, only McDuffie was during a race the other two prior to raceday

all of them knew the chances they were taking and none of them would have wanted to have the race canceled/stopped...

that is part of what makes them drivers, accepting the risks involved

49 posted on 05/24/2014 9:28:06 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Mike Darancette

Your telling me. got home movies out at the jalopy races when I was 4 years old....


50 posted on 05/24/2014 11:19:12 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: PastorBooks

“So men died and they kept racing? I see we haven’t progressed since the Roman colosseums.”

No one is sent out on the track at the point of sword. They all knew it was dangerous and they, being FREE MEN, chose to do it anyway.

Apparently you don’t understand racing. Fifty years ago, but still racing.

Tell me, what should they have done? Never race again? Is that what you want?


51 posted on 05/24/2014 11:27:46 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: PastorBooks

“Real men — true men — never exult in the loss of human life. “

Excuse me, but as a life long race fan I object to your uninformed and STUPID and INSULTING statement. People did not and do not attend races to “exult in the loss of human life”.

YOU do not understand racing, or race fans. Or what it means to be a free man or for that matter what it means to be a real man.


52 posted on 05/24/2014 11:42:41 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: P-Marlowe

“Automobile racing is exciting because death is waiting around every turn.”

No. That is not what makes automobile racing exciting. Apparently you are not a fan, which is ok.

But you don’t get it.


53 posted on 05/24/2014 11:45:14 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nik Naym
No. That is not what makes automobile racing exciting. Apparently you are not a fan, which is ok.

The idea is to push the envelope. If you don't push it, you can't win. You can't even compete. At any moment anything can go wrong and your life is in danger every moment of the race. Yet in the face of that danger, you press the pedal to the floor and nothing else in the world exists.

If it weren't a very dangerous sport, then the sport would not have any more fans than the people who get a thrill out of watching a marathon.

54 posted on 05/25/2014 12:10:58 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Loud Mime

Thanks for that Hurtubise picture!


55 posted on 05/25/2014 4:19:19 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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To: Big Red Badger

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1997-07-11/sports/9707110120_1_arie-luyendyk-foyt-johnson

Foyt, Luyendyk Fined

Auto racing

July 11, 1997

THE INDY Racing League has fined A.J. Foyt and Arie Luyendyk for their altercation following last month’s inaugural True Value 500K. Foyt was fined $20,000, and Luyendyk was fined $14,000 for the unsportsmanlike behavior they demonstrated after the June 7 race, the IRL announced Thursday.

Following the race in Fort Worth, Texas, racer-turned-car-owner Foyt attacked Luyendyk when he entered Victory Lane after A.J. Foyt Enterprises drivers Billy Boat and Davey Hamilton were listed as finishing 1-2. Luyendyk was listed in third. Convinced that he had won, Luyendyk charged into Victory Lane, prompting Foyt to strike him twice in the back of the head and shove him to the ground. Luyendyk was later declared the winner after race officials determined that a computerized scoring system had malfunctioned.

Here it is on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR3NY9n_hIY


56 posted on 05/25/2014 5:21:32 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

AJ had many issues,,


57 posted on 05/25/2014 6:15:29 AM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

1997 I went to Team Green,
Dario and Paul Tracey.
Being on a crew was intense.
thanks for the info.


58 posted on 05/25/2014 6:23:14 AM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Big Red Badger

Yes! Yes he did.


59 posted on 05/25/2014 6:31:57 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: Big Red Badger

I agree - it’s a noble career and only the great succeed. I love racing of all kinds - my experience didn’t touch that. I just didn’t like what I saw in the crowd that was around me.

I too have pitted in a racing team, and at almost 70 have 2 Harley’s, 3 classic Triumph’ motorcycles - and I push every one of them. It’s in my blood. Love racing of all kinds, but auto racing the most.


60 posted on 05/25/2014 6:34:42 AM PDT by Arlis
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