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There is a phrase that floats around college campuses, Princeton being no exception, that threatens
http://theprincetontory.com/main/checking-my-privilege-character-as-the-basis-of-privilege/ ^ | Tal Fortgang '17 / April 2, 2014 and not "anonymous on pastebin"

Posted on 05/05/2014 3:10:03 PM PDT by Scoutmaster

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To: justiceseeker93; Jewbacca; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Eleutheria5; hecht; dervish; GOPGuide; ...
The author is Tal Fortgang.

Mr. Fortgang didn't write this essay anonymously. Thanks to Chickensoup, I've since learned that the site I found erred in attributing this to "anonymous."

Mr. Fortgang's initial essay - written under his name - appeared in The Princeton Tory, "[a] journal of conservative and moderate thought."

The overwhelming majority of comments at that site essentially tell him to shut his white-privileged mouth, and that his family story doesn't matter because he's white-privileged because he's white.

One comment points out that Mr. Fortang's family story of a few generations of inconvenience (okay, I made up the 'inconvenience' part) doesn't compare with the 300 years of oppression that blacks have suffered in America. I think to myself "300 years. Hmmm. Gee, I can't think of any oppression that Jewish individuals have ever suffered throughout history (tongue firmly planted in cheek)."

It's well worth reading ten or fifteen comments, if just to get an idea about how Mr. Fortang will be treated at Princeton after publication of this essay.

21 posted on 05/08/2014 5:38:27 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Chickensoup
Thank you for the National Review article on Mr. Fortgang's article.

A great read.

Among my favorite parts:

The point of Mr. Fortgang’s essay — the part that drives the Left to rage — is that such advantages as this particular young man from suburban Westchester County enjoys are much more the product of the sort of family he comes from, and the opportunities that they enjoyed in the United States, than they are of ethnic and sexual features. Mr. Fortgang’s grandfather is a standing rebuke to the entire concept of white-male privilege: Imagine the sort of moral illiteracy it takes to behold a Jewish refugee from the Nazis who has arrived with no money or connections on foreign shores to live among people who did not, let us remember, universally welcome the Jewish influx, and before the Siberian frost has even been brushed off his shoulders, to point at him and cry: “Lucky you!”

22 posted on 05/08/2014 5:43:13 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Daveinyork
Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave. How dare you.

Give me a second and I'll channel the 'privilege' finger pointers.

You have male privilege.

You have white privilege.

You may have U.S. citizenship privilege.

You have two-parents privilege.

You have working parents privilege.

You may have height privilege.

You may have 'not-disabled' privilege.

You have "you-didn't-build-that-but-claim-to-'own'-private-business" privilege.

You have native-English-speaking privilege.

You probably had books-in-the-childhood-home privilege.

You clearly have Internet privilege.

You probably even have privilege privilege.

Now, then, aren't you ashamed?

23 posted on 05/08/2014 6:27:07 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Scoutmaster

Yeah, Except for the height privilege (I’m only 5’7”, too short for basketball) I’m overwhelmed with guilt for all my privileges.


24 posted on 05/08/2014 6:34:30 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork
I could scarcely get out of bed this morning, I'm so weighted by privilege.

Oh. Now I have to worry about I-have-a-bed privilege.

25 posted on 05/08/2014 6:45:17 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Daveinyork
I could scarcely get out of bed this morning, I'm so weighted by privilege.

Oh. Now I have to worry about I-have-a-bed privilege.

26 posted on 05/08/2014 6:45:17 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Scoutmaster
"Check your privilege."

Proper response: "Go get bent."

27 posted on 05/08/2014 6:56:38 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

If you truly believe me to be of a “privileged” group,
you should be hesitant to criticize me out of fear of reprisal.

Now, I know it’s not minorities that live in such fear, but some other group that does...


28 posted on 05/08/2014 6:59:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sherman Logan; KC_Lion
FWIW, Jewish students are 13% of Princeton. That’s by far the lowest in the Ivy League and the school has a goal of getting it back up to 20%.

No problem with that, until you realize Jews are only 2% of the population.

I doubt I have any disagreement with this student or his no doubt well-earned presence at Princeton.

I have a lot of problems with his ethnic/religious compatriots who have led the fight to have “white people” limited to no more than their percentage of the population (actually much less) at elite colleges, while allowing, indeed encouraging, Jews to exceed their percentage by 10x or 15x.

Well that was a petty observation to make on this thread.

29 posted on 05/08/2014 7:28:00 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Why?

The vast majority of Jews are liberals, and liberals constantly decry the under-representation of (certain) ethnic groups at (especially elite) colleges.

Why is it petty to point out that they don’t hold their own groups to the same standard they wish to impose on the rest of us? Which is to say, every group equally represented.

According to the Harvard website, their admitted students are presently 11% black, 20% Asian, 12% Hispanic and 3% Native American.

This adds up to 46% “minorities.” Leaving 54% presumably to be “white,” in which of course Jewish students are included.

I don’t believe Harvard releases actual statistics, but it is generally accepted that 1/4 to 1/3 of the students at Harvard identify as Jewish. Add this to the “minorities” admitted, and we’re down to somewhere between 21% and 29% of student slots available for white gentiles.

I would have no problem with any of this if all students were admitted purely on test scores or some other merit-based approach. But of course they are not, so in practice the primary result looks a lot like exclusion of white gentiles, whether that is what is intended or not.

Personally, I find these types of calculations distasteful. But since they are widely used by liberals, many of whose leaders are Jewish, to condemn America and white people for discrimination, why is it petty to point out what by their own standards (at least those they apply to others) is shocking racial and/or ethnic discrimination?


30 posted on 05/08/2014 8:30:56 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: lavaroise

Bttt


31 posted on 05/08/2014 8:41:50 AM PDT by southland ( I have faith in the creator Republicans freed the slaves)
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To: Scoutmaster

What about the International Conspiracy to take over the world and fake the Holocaust to justify it? Doesn’t that make you privileged? Huh? Huh? Huh?

And that’s nothing compared to what the sons of former slaves suffered. Why, if it hadn’t been for slavery, they’d have been back in Africa, starving or getting raped and murdered by holy warriors, as Allah meant them to be./s


32 posted on 05/08/2014 3:05:35 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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Thanks Scoutmaster.


33 posted on 05/08/2014 3:36:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Scoutmaster

Great post. It might be a duplicate but it doesn’t matter... it’s worth many reads...


34 posted on 05/08/2014 4:18:04 PM PDT by GOPJ ( Are we finally going to get a smidgen of truth? - - Freeper Veto!)
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To: justiceseeker93
I'm glad my college years ended decades ago.
35 posted on 05/08/2014 5:45:30 PM PDT by quadrant (1o)
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I have a lot of problems with his ethnic/religious compatriots who have led the fight to have “white people” limited to no more than their percentage of the population (actually much less) at elite colleges, while allowing, indeed encouraging, Jews to exceed their percentage by 10x or 15x.

From this Jewish conservative perspective, I am wholeheartedly opposed to any affirmative action and to any racial/ethnic/religious quotas in college admissions and favor a strict merit system. In schools which regrettably still employ college admissions affirmative action and/or racial/ethnic/religious quota practices, Jewish applicants are considered to be part of the "white people" group by the bean counters. If there is discrimination against Jewish applicants, it's precisely because all white applicants are discriminated against to make way for desired percentages (quotas) of African American and Hispanic students. Asian heritage students often have a fixed percentage set for them as well, but they are often discriminated against because they would outnumber their quota if a strict merit standard were used.

I don't care for Jewish leftists any more than other leftists, but I'm not exactly sure of who you refer to when you talk about "his ethnic/religious compatriots who have led the fight to have 'white people' limited to no more than their percentage of the population (actually much less) at elite colleges, while allowing, indeed encouraging, Jews to exceed their percentage by 10x or 15x." I'm unaware of even leftist Jews who advocate those policies. If anything, the Jewish left would have Jewish applicants sacrifice places in college admissions to get more (less qualified) black and Hispanic applicants admitted - a position which I staunchly oppose.

36 posted on 05/08/2014 8:22:47 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; EinNYC; GraceG; Jack Hydrazine; Phinneous; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
I can tell you very simply Justiceseeker.

All the leftists see are groups.

And to them, all us Jews are "Jewish American Princesses" who have been spoiled rotten from working so hard and need to be knocked down a peg.

It's their Modus Operandi

37 posted on 05/08/2014 8:32:49 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

If the collectivists had their way they’d do much more than that!


38 posted on 05/08/2014 8:46:50 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Scoutmaster

Beautiful.

My privilege is the same as his.


39 posted on 05/08/2014 11:13:01 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Scoutmaster

Too depressing for words. Assuming that a lot of these are Princeton students, the best and the brightest, we are in for a lot of merde.

They don’t agree with him nor do they see the point of just leaving people alone and not focusing on race or ethnicity.

They still want to call some people better than others,and their hierarchy has, inexplicably, at the top those with darker skins period. They are so blind I don’t see how they even find air to breathe.

For example, the lesbian who commented and railed that people say “it was that black/Asian man over there” and that they’d never say that about whites, what does she think people say in a black neighborhood? Of course to hell they do say “it was that white /Asian guy over there.” In an Asian neighborhood they would do exactly the same thing, not say “Asian guy, but they’d say black or white.” DUH. And they are all that smug and just plain stupid.


40 posted on 05/08/2014 11:26:57 PM PDT by Yaelle
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