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Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy
birtherreport ^ | March 31, 2014 | Linda Jordan

Posted on 03/31/2014 10:55:40 AM PDT by ethical

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To: Boogieman

Plenty of fat people are healthy and lots of marathon runners are sick and drop dead of heart attacks. Pictures do not tell the whole story.


21 posted on 03/31/2014 12:39:39 PM PDT by ethical
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To: bigdaddy45

Agree. But the autopsy is not playing out that way. Something is being covered up.


22 posted on 03/31/2014 12:41:27 PM PDT by ethical
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To: Tennessee Conservative

The big problem with a-fib is the probability of a blood clot formimg. You normally go on a blood thinner.


23 posted on 03/31/2014 12:54:59 PM PDT by Clay Moore ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: ethical

I wouldn’t be surprised if Dr. Harle meets an accidental death in the near future. Gotta make sure those loose ends don’t cause trouble.


24 posted on 03/31/2014 12:58:15 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: bigdaddy45

What if Kawasaki had been tasked with taking Fuddy out and the plane crash was truly accidental and not sabotage?


25 posted on 03/31/2014 1:03:31 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: bigdaddy45

Sorry, I meant “Yamamoto”, not Kawasaki.


26 posted on 03/31/2014 1:04:10 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: bigdaddy45
If your’e going to kill her, there are much easier ways than taking out a whole plane. Second, this supposed plot would involve the plane crashing, and one of the survivors killing her. if someone on the plane was in on the plot, why would they consent to being on a crashed plane with the chance of getting killed themselves?

I'm not saying I believe it, but I don't see why someone on the plane needs to be involved.

In the airport, Fuddy is injected, or ingests a toxin that will eventually cause her heart to stop. You would want to administer the toxin when certain that Fuddy was going to be on the plane. Maybe someone walks up to her as her flight is boarding, and thanks her for helping them with something, and simply wants to shake her hand. The toxin does not work immediately - that would result in either medical attention right there at the airport, and a person not diagnosed with a heart condition dying of a sudden heart stoppage, of unknown cause, might raise suspicion. Since the toxin takes awhile to work, and to insure that she can't be rushed to a hospital, the engine of the plane she is about to board is sabotaged. If the plane crashes catastrophically that is ok, and if the pilot is able to make a successful water landing, that too is ok. As long as medical attention can not be provided during the required period that is all that would be required.

The toxin guarantees that Fuddy will not survive, and the plane insures that medical personnel are not able to document her death. No one need be involved accept the person who administers the toxin to Fuddy, and sabotages the engine. Only one or two people, very simple, and very easy.
27 posted on 03/31/2014 1:20:18 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin
Also, I forgot one main thing.

If Fuddy was killed, it would be imperative that she not survive, and if the method of killing her was not immediate, that she not know that she was being killed.

Why? Simple, if someone did kill her, it's safe to say that it was because she had damaging information. And if that is true, and she became aware that someone was trying to kill her, I think it's also safe to say that she might decide to pass that damaging information onto someone around her.
28 posted on 03/31/2014 1:28:18 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: ethical

“Plenty of fat people are healthy...”

Sure they are. Obesity puts you at higher risk for all sorts of serious, life-threatening diseases and shortens your life expectancy considerably, but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.


29 posted on 03/31/2014 2:03:01 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Clay Moore

Right. Mine is not actually Afib, or at least the doctor didn’t say it was. The doctor said it’s “an Afib like disorder caused by stress”. I take an aspirin a day instead of the normal blood thinners just to be on the safe side because if I get really tired I can feel a slight bit but nothing like it was. I also get checked annually to check for any artery blockages that might be dislodged but they have never found any and since I retired the problem seems to have pretty much stopped. It got so bad while I was working that they put me on short-term disability for a while and a month before I retired they put me on a temporary 40-hour a week restriction. I decided the best thing I could do was retire. So far I don’t have anymore problems with it.


30 posted on 03/31/2014 2:20:07 PM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: Two Kids' Dad; maggief; WildHighlander57; All

Where is Yamamoto. He seems to have just dropped out of sight? What’s he doing to pay his bills?


31 posted on 03/31/2014 2:22:17 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Boogieman

And the number of marathon running, vegetarians who have heart attacks?


32 posted on 03/31/2014 2:34:25 PM PDT by ethical
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To: ethical

Is completely immaterial to my point about Fuddy, so I don’t give a hoot.


33 posted on 03/31/2014 5:10:56 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: hoosiermama

You can call Keith at (808) 586-4412. He’s still Deputy Director of Health.
He took a little time off because he was in a plane that fell into the Pacific Ocean.


34 posted on 03/31/2014 11:21:07 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: ethical
Problems with this report:
It is not possible to diagnose death by “cardiac arrhythmia”. It is something that can only be measured in a live person and there is no evidence of it after death. If someone had a medical history of cardiac arrhythmia it could be a good guess but a guess none the less.
That's absolute crap. Cardiac arrthymia has been able to be measured post-mortem for decades now, especially if it involves ventricular fibrillation. Only 6% of sudden cardiac deaths are unable to be explained, and advances in molecular biology and the use of post-mortem cardiac MRIs are taking care of that problem.
Loretta’s brother, Lewis P. Fuddy Jr., says that his sister was healthy, that she had no heart problems and that she was not a stressed or fearful person. He said that she was a very calm person and had to be given her job. His personal knowledge of his own sister directly controverts the medical examiner’s conclusion.
I'll take the medical examiner's professional opinion over what some brother thinks. I'm a raging stressball. My siblings and parents think I'm the calmest person in the world because I internalize all of it. They would be surprised by the heart medication I take.
*‘Autopsy report says Loretta Fuddy was “markedly afraid” after plane crash’.
This could actually be determined by the level of adrenaline and types and amounts of enzymes present in the body after death. Secondly, being a calm person with no known heart problems doesn't prevent the onset of SADS. See several young athletes who have died of that problem.
ocean conditions included relatively calm five-foot waves
Five foot waves are relatively calm? Has this person every been floating in the ocean in five foot waves? They're nuts if they think it's 'calm'!
. This is an autopsy report? Does this sound like a systematic external and internal examination of a dead body to determine if any abnormalities are present and are the cause of death? Where are the words that actually tell us the condition of her body and health? Why are the emotional, speculative words pushed to the forefront but the technical, factual descriptions are kept hidden? And why is this autopsy report filled with emotion and speculation in the first place?
Because it's not an autopsy report? It's a summary of an autopsy report, done by a journalist who wants good copy. It has no official bearing whatsoever.
The AP did not share a copy of the report which was said to be heavily redacted
Correct. They are forbidden by law to do so. You have to request it yourself.
is important to note that attorney Orly Taitz made a public records request for the autopsy report on December 18, 2013 and has never received a copy....Why did the AP get a copy but not Taitz? It is a public record subject to Hawaii’s Unified Information Practices Act Statue 92F. I requested one myself but seriously doubt it will be forthcoming . Is it only released to people who will beat the drum that Loretta’s death was caused by fear & hyperventilation?
No, it's because the autopsy report is not released just on request to anybody. Per their own website for the Honolulu Medical Examiner: There is a five dollar ($5.00) processing fee. Please enclose a check for the amount made payable to Department of the Medical Examiner. A copy of the autopsy report will be mailed to you when it is completed. Please understand that, occasionally, final reports may take as much as six (6) to eight (8) weeks to be completed. I'm betting that neither Orly nor you paid the five bucks.
As of March 29, 2014 no one knows why the plane’s engine failed. The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has yet to determine the cause of the crash so how can the Medical Examiner or the Maui Police Department rule Fuddy’s death “accidental”?
Becuase they have found no evidence that it's intentional. That's what you do when don't find intentional evidence of murder.
However, I would wager in this case that most Medical Examiners would have gone with, “manner of death undetermined”.
And you'd be wrong, because you don't know what you're talking about.
1. Does this autopsy report, what little we’ve seen of it, sound like an autopsy report?
It is impossible for me to say, primarily because the "little we've seen of it" is not enough to base an opinion on one way or the other. I'd have to see the actual autopsy report, not some summary a report jibed up.
2. Does the “markedly afraid” portrayal of Loretta Fuddy jive with the original eye witness accounts and the video?
Depends on the chemicals and enzymes present in Loretta Fuddy at death, as fear is not something always detectable by the eye.
3. Is the designation of death, by cardiac arrhythmia due to a fearful, un-calm, hyperventilating demeanor, supported by the description that Lewis Fuddy gives of his sister Loretta?
Depending on the biological factors, yes or no. Hearsay by a brother don't mean squat.

Shoddy reasoning. Needs a lot more medical and scientific info involved and not just pure speculation.
35 posted on 04/01/2014 12:36:08 AM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: Nero Germanicus

Thanks for the information. He did return to work as Duluth Director


36 posted on 04/01/2014 1:36:52 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: GAFreedom
Five foot waves are relatively calm? Has this person every been floating in the ocean in five foot waves? They're nuts if they think it's 'calm'!

Okay, I'm nuts, but that is calm for the ocean. They are swells, not breakers, and as they go through, objects and people on the surface bob up and down with them. Since the five feet are measured from the bottom of the trough to the top of the swell, and the wavelengths are fairly long, the effect is not as abrupt as you might think.

37 posted on 04/01/2014 2:00:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: bigdaddy45
The intent is plausible deniability and the suspension of disbelief and most casual observers will likely stop their critical thinking with "plane crash", as your comments show.

However, ditching a plane, especially a plane designed to fly and land well at slow speed like Cessna's Caravans, is not the guaranteed death that might be implied by "plane crash".

Even ditching in high speed passenger jets can be survivable, just ask Capt. Sullenberger about his ditching into the icy Hudson where all 150 passengers and 5 crew survived.

So, this could easily be the "perfect" scenario for a hit to clean up loose ends with no collateral damage, where all survive but the target and few bother to look more closely.

The Caravan might have revealed clues as to why its Pratt & Whitney turboprop engine, one of the world's most reliable, would have developed problems, but it was somehow destroyed after it was ditched into the ocean.

Curious...

38 posted on 04/01/2014 7:27:09 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA

If you’re going to set out to kill someone.... doing it this way would be WAY too complicated. I really can’t see a scenario where someone would go to so much trouble for some obscure gov’t official.


39 posted on 04/01/2014 8:05:06 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45
Given the circumstances and mystery surrounding Loretta Fuddy and her associations, she's not all that obscure in certain circles, but the need to make her appear so and maintain that appearance is understandable.

Assuming this was a hit, it doesn't appear to be "much trouble" at all from here to get the result they were after.

Political hits can range from basic to something close to an art form, designed with an ending in mind and a message to be sent.

40 posted on 04/01/2014 8:24:13 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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