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Ukrainians Want to Arm Themselves to the Teeth
Vocativ ^ | Mar 07, 2014 | Versha Sharma and Vladi Vovchuk

Posted on 03/15/2014 1:59:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 03/15/2014 1:59:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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On a national scale, they would complete FOOLS for giving up their ‘nukes’.

It makes total sense to allow their citizens to be armed. Under the current circumstances, it might even be wise to make it mandatory. Every household armed with AKs, 1,000 rounds of ammo, and some magazines.

Given how so many in their country desire to join the EU, I doubt they would be smart enough to implement such a policy, however.


2 posted on 03/15/2014 2:08:29 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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If every Ukrainian had a rifle and 300 rounds of ammunition, that might make the Russians rethink whatever invasion ideas they might have. The Ukrainian government should be building militia formations right now.


3 posted on 03/15/2014 2:08:38 PM PDT by vladimir998
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On a national scale, they would complete FOOLS for giving up their ‘nukes’.

Did Clinton FORCE them to, when they signed that ridiculous Budapest Memorandum in 1994?

4 posted on 03/15/2014 2:10:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

There are nearby countries who can and will, no doubt, start providing them with firearms. If Putin pushes for a full takeover, let’s hope the Ukrainians defend their homeland and send lots of Russians home dead. Then, we’ll see how great of a leader the ex-KGB and autocrat Putin is.


6 posted on 03/15/2014 2:23:32 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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Ruger should sell them mini 14s and mini 30s. Heck even a million 10/22s would help.


7 posted on 03/15/2014 2:29:35 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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in fact I can imagine obama’s goons sniping people in Times Square, in the nation’s Capitol, and kicking in doors.


8 posted on 03/15/2014 2:30:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Lend Lease 2014


9 posted on 03/15/2014 2:37:22 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: vladimir998

The most difficult part of making a decent rifle is the barrel. The machines to make even cheap barrels in an industrial scale run about $1 million but they can crank out a barrel every 5 min to 10 min or so. However, there are older ways to make barrels that are less costly. The trade off being that they take much longer to make a barrel.

If I were the Ukraine, I would be putting a few million of any EU or US aid money into building a couple of barrel factories. I’d also be working with existing machinists to crank out a few million gun parts. AKs are easy to make but are not as accurate as the M16 line. M-16 lowers can be made from casting 80% lowers and then milling out certain parts. I estimate that 1 machinist could mill out 2 lowers per day. Massive parallel 3d printing of AR lowers might work as an alternative.

Arm each citizen, train them in the care and use, train them in how to shoot accurately at 300 to 500 meters. Train 100 as snipers, then have that 100 train another 100 each. A nation of trained urban snipers would be DAMN difficult to overrun.


10 posted on 03/15/2014 2:37:30 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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The most important measure they could pass, would be abolition of any record-keeping of firearms and ammo purchase.

You know if the Russians come in, the FIRST thing they will do is seize the records of who has what, and then demand people turn their stuff in.

11 posted on 03/15/2014 2:42:21 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: F15Eagle

“He was wearing a black shirt with a picture of a pistol that read (in Ukrainian), “Free men own guns. Slaves don’t.”

That is beautiful poetry...


12 posted on 03/15/2014 2:44:57 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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They should find the warehouses of the exporters that send Mosin Nagants over here. Should be several million there. Dunno if 7.62x54r ammo is readily available, though.


13 posted on 03/15/2014 2:45:44 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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They gave up nukes and we agreed to protect them from invasion ...so much for that!


14 posted on 03/15/2014 2:46:16 PM PDT by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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They gave up nukes and we agreed to protect them from invasion ...so much for that!

Stupidity all around.

15 posted on 03/15/2014 2:51:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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The fact that the U.S. has been doing the same thing since Obama’s election is both disturbing and reassuring.


16 posted on 03/15/2014 3:32:43 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: dfwgator

I believe Russia was in on it too.

Naturally, countries that possess Nuclear weapons would tend to discourage others from getting/having them. Why give up that advantage? I believe that’s another motivation of the whole “Global warming” thing. If you’re a developed country, it’s in your advantage to see large undeveloped countries to remain undeveloped and not advance to where they can potentially compete with you.

The long term effect this entire matter is going have is kissing any chance of nonproliferation goodbye!


17 posted on 03/15/2014 3:47:24 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: nickcarraway

BTTT


18 posted on 03/15/2014 3:51:41 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: taxcontrol

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19 posted on 03/15/2014 5:32:04 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: samadams2000

Ruger could give them a million 10/22s. Try getting ammo for them.


20 posted on 03/15/2014 6:40:22 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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