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1 posted on 02/27/2014 5:11:03 AM PST by newb2012
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If unfinished, find a downstairs roughed-in plumbing pipe for a sink, toilet, floor drain, etc. and then wire an outlet near that. Buy tubing, adapters, etc. and connect to a good capacity dehumidifier and keep it running. One with an adjustable humidistat is nice.

I did that in my basement and it is always below 50% in the summer and 30% or so in the winter....it will work for mold, and rust (I keep my guns there).


2 posted on 02/27/2014 5:16:00 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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There is a product called “Anti-spalling compound” It contains linseed oil and a drying agent. I have used it on exterior walks and been very happy with it.


3 posted on 02/27/2014 5:16:48 AM PST by verga
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4 posted on 02/27/2014 5:17:19 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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http://www.garagejournal.com/ Go into the forum, entire section on preparing and sealing concrete floors.


5 posted on 02/27/2014 5:18:58 AM PST by VTenigma
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Was a vapor barrier put down before the concrete was placed?


6 posted on 02/27/2014 5:21:35 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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Check with Your local Paint Store (Sherwin-Williams, etc) a lot will depend on the age of the concrete- the newer the worse time You will have, the older the better.

Concrete is always curing.

You can check with Home Depot, etc but they don’t just deal in coatings.

That’s ALL a paint Store does.

Prep is VERY IMPORTANT!!!

You will be using a 2 part coating but get the Pros at the Paint Store to help You.


7 posted on 02/27/2014 5:22:14 AM PST by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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It can be a big job .. how long since the floor was poured ?

At minimum, an epoxy-based paint (pricey) and a good dehumidifier after it's applied.

If it's a new-ish pour, you'll need to wait for it to fully cure .. do a web search on recommended times.

Regardless how smoothly it was troweled, etching is recommended before any paint's applied .. etching = acid solution, most commonly muriatic.

Conversely, if the basement space isn't used for much beside storage and the moisture isn't such that things fall apart down there,
investing in a good 70 quart dehumidifier (w/ hose > floor drain) may be enough to obviate the need for messing with paint, etc.

/.02

9 posted on 02/27/2014 5:24:48 AM PST by tomkat (3%+1)
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Use a two part epoxy paint it’s kind of expensive but in the long run it will last. I know Sherwin William has it but Home Depot and Menards and Lowes probably have it too.


11 posted on 02/27/2014 5:29:32 AM PST by Brasky (You miss every shot you never take.)
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12 posted on 02/27/2014 5:30:02 AM PST by tomkat (30yrs carpenter/cabinetmaker/contractor)
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moisture seal my unfinished basement’s concrete floor

Keep in mind that if you are having moisture being drawn through the concrete due to temperature/humidity differentials, putting a barrier seal is difficult to completely stop.

A low quality product may only make your problem harder to fix in that the moisture may build up behind an inadequate seal. That "paint" may then make it tougher to put down a better product later.

My point, based upon my father's experience with the same problem, is don't try to cut corners on your first attempt. It will make the real fix that much harder.

Do your research. Some folks have found more success running dehumidifiers in the basement.

My dad didn't find anything that worked until he spent the money on a good epoxy-type paint (expensive and a challenge to lay down quickly before it cures). The two cheaper types he tried first only created him more problems as they split and cracked as the moisture built up behind them from inadequate sealing.

They worked at first, but did not last over time. And then they had to be fully removed to get a good seal for the next product.

Poor cleaning of the surface will likely prevent good sealing as well. The best is an acid product made for cleaning concrete prior to sealing. I used these in factories where I coated floors to help with cleaning. Eventually I convinced my Dad to try what I suggested, but only after a couple years of failure with lessor products.

Good Luck! It can be a big job. Be SURE to get force ventilation through your basement (window fans) before the acid clean or the epoxy paint. You don't want to pass out down there in it, nor do you want those fumes lingering in your house.

14 posted on 02/27/2014 5:32:54 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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If it’s just for moisture sealing, most hardware stores carry UGL Drylock, which works well for sealing. I’d use a 2-part epoxy on the floor if it’s not going to have any kind of floor covering laid down over the concrete.


15 posted on 02/27/2014 5:34:09 AM PST by tacticalogic
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drylock sealing paint, with a 2 part epoxy pour over it but only after it’s cured and been through at least 2 full years of seasonal changes.


16 posted on 02/27/2014 5:34:44 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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I am a water damage restoration business owner, and I do mold inspections and testing in homes and businesses.

1. Ground water will travel through concrete.

2. Gravity is the answer... not sealant. Over time, the sealant will fail, and water can still enter through small cracks or pits. The only way to properly seal a concrete basement is on the OUTSIDE of the concrete. not the inside.

3. Contact a basement waterproofing professional. We have one here that uses a method of digging a 4” trough around the perimeter of the area and channeling the water to a sump pump. Water that effervesces through exterior walls travels down to the trough. Water that would otherwise effervesce up through the floor will find it’s way to the sump basin instead.

4. Avoid installing wood based products such as sheetrock in the basement. If you want to use wood finishing materials in the basement, use cedar or other mold resistant materials.

5. Keep a dehumidifier operating in the basement. A good one that moves about 50-75 pints a day can be purchased at Lowes for under $300.00

Good luck.


17 posted on 02/27/2014 5:37:36 AM PST by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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18 posted on 02/27/2014 5:57:48 AM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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Stay away from Rustoleum’s “Restore” deck & concrete sealer!

I spent the better part of last summer preparing & painting our 800+ square foot deck with this crap. Very expensive and time consuming. I strictly followed the directions for application and it gave us a non-skid surface that looked great. That lasted until the first freeze and then started coming off in big chunks. The next rain dissolved the paint into a chocolate pudding texture that our new puppy took a liking to.

Called Rustoleum customer service and they issued a full refund ($450.00) without argument. To my surprise, two months later Fed-Ex delivered 25 gallons + rollers at no charge.

The product is total junk and should be pulled from the market. Hopefully I can find an 0bama voter to sell it to!

Reviews from other customers can be found here:

http://www.sodahead.com/living/has-anyone-ever-used-restore-to-paint-their-deck/question-1137425/

Good luck with your problem....


19 posted on 02/27/2014 6:00:10 AM PST by panaxanax
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Find where the water is coming from and divert it.

For researching methods, see articles at buildingscience.com:

renovating basement

rubble basement

20 posted on 02/27/2014 6:09:43 AM PST by cornelis
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The obvious: A basement is below ground level. Think of it as a boat you have made that sits in a place where water naturally resides. Water that congregates along the outside concrete floor and walls of the boat naturally pushes up or inward trying to either fill or raise the boat. Rather than trying to put a band aid over this inward pressure on the inside floor and wall surfaces, you should consider ways to relieve the pressure along the outside surfaces where the water and moisture resides. If you want to solve your problem, water proof the outside basement walls and properly install drain pipe just below the footers around the outside circumference of your house. Drain the piped water away from the site by gravity if you have a sloped lot or with the aid of an electric pump.
21 posted on 02/27/2014 6:12:47 AM PST by iontheball
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The best concrete sealer is a silane. These coatings react with the concrete chemically. Expensive but the best.


26 posted on 02/27/2014 7:03:49 AM PST by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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Do NOT use any of the epoxy products sold at Home Depot, Lowes or Sherwin Williams. These are all just surface applications and they will eventually peel. If you want a true epoxy finish, you will have to pay a professional to put it down. Shop around prices vary greatly between companies.

If there was not a vapor barrier, like 6 ml poly, put under the concrete prior to pouring it there is very little you can do to keep the moisture from coming up through the floor. Therefore, you need to remove the moisture that accumulates in the basement with a dehumidifier. The UGL will work on the walls but may peel on the floor.


27 posted on 02/27/2014 7:12:58 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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Investigate a Wave Ventilation System. I have used this in my very damp Crawl Space with excellent results - I now have it below 55 percent (humidity control) set at 55 percent.

It basically draws air from the living space - draws that air thru the basement space and exhausts it outside.

Ventilation System uses a lot less energy than a Dehumidifier and is quieter.


33 posted on 02/27/2014 8:44:05 AM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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