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To: bramps

Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known. A bulge in the pants could be a colostomy bag, a gun or an erection. They should wait and see and risk their live while waiting.


11 posted on 02/25/2014 9:49:08 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019

“Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known. A bulge in the pants could be a colostomy bag, a gun or an erection. They should wait and see and risk their live while waiting.”

They should have just left him the hell alone.


14 posted on 02/25/2014 9:53:02 PM PST by ebshumidors
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To: doc1019
why were the coppers even interested in this guy?...you mean the cops can just interpret whatever they want as a danger?....

the coppers intervened for no apparent reason, certainly no legit reasons.....

15 posted on 02/25/2014 9:54:40 PM PST by cherry
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To: doc1019
Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known.

Even when they ripped from his body they thought it was suspicious...They probably thought it was a terrorist bomb or some wierd drugs...They put it on the hood and started poking it with their night sticks...

Ahhhhhhhhhh

I'm getting that monkey movie feeling again....

It's a mad house!

16 posted on 02/25/2014 9:54:47 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: doc1019
Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known. A bulge in the pants could be a colostomy bag, a gun or an erection. They should wait and see and risk their live while waiting. So we are not citizens, but mere subjects who must submit to statist searches, just because our clothes don't look right to the police? Sorry, but I prefer to defend liberty. I reject the presumption that the police have the right to search my person just because I "might" be carrying a gun. Your sarcasm mocks Mr. Powell's pain.
17 posted on 02/25/2014 9:55:01 PM PST by Flyin' Hawaiian ("No private messages, please. Thanks.")
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To: doc1019
Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known.

When Powell's mother asked the cop if he could tell her son had Down's Syndrome, the cop said he wasn't a doctor.

Hey doc they couldn't even tell this guy had Down's Syndrome.

So I'm confident these officers will now be up for promotion to detective!

27 posted on 02/25/2014 10:05:02 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: doc1019
Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known. A bulge in the pants could be a colostomy bag, a gun or an erection. They should wait and see and risk their live while waiting.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

What part of the above is so difficult to understand?

28 posted on 02/25/2014 10:05:46 PM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: doc1019

Was he doing anything...anything at all, wrong?

I know quite a few downs syndrome people...and quite a few people who are disabled with colostomy bags. Those people do not go out looking for trouble. People in those conditions are almost universally very reserved.

This is another travesty.

They allowed their, what I am willing to bet were unwarranted suspicions of him to cause them to intrude on his walk home, and when he was not fast enough responding to them (and Down’s Syndrome can easily make that happen), so they beat him to the ground and ripped his colostomy bag off of him.

It’s indefensible unless they can show in any way that he was participating in any criminal/illegal behavior, or that he was a threat to anyone. But it is a pretty sure thing that he wasn’t.

They should have just left him the hell alone.


49 posted on 02/25/2014 10:26:04 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: doc1019

In your estimation the cop should probably have shot the kid on sight, I’m sure. The cop would be less likely to get in actual trouble had he, in fact, just shot the kid in the back and then said to the next person on the scene, “I felt threatened,” then go off on his paid extra vacation reward.


60 posted on 02/25/2014 10:44:25 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: doc1019
"Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known. A bulge in the pants could be a colostomy bag, a gun or an erection. They should wait and see and risk their live while waiting."

Many police officers, despite their bachelors' degrees, are incapable of recognizing that someone has Down Syndrome. They were the candidates preferred by the favored constituents who own them.


67 posted on 02/25/2014 10:57:38 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: doc1019
You are wrong on this one, my friend. At worst he was transporting contraband...at best he was not guilty of anything other than being a “retard” target. And, yes, I was an LEO and even lectured at the academy.
70 posted on 02/25/2014 10:58:46 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: doc1019

More importantly what was the 4th amendment and 1st amendment issue?

Those just go out the door at the whim of an officer?

What right does he have to detain anyone on the street, forcibly search them and beat them?

Was there some exigency for his exerting authority under the color of law?

Without reasonable cause or an exigency he had no right to so much as detain him...

Unless he was disabled and clearly inferior to the officer who normally patrols his “territory” with vigor...


84 posted on 02/25/2014 11:38:30 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: doc1019

Yes cops should just beat down everyone who has stuff in the pockets. Lets start with YOUR FAMILY!


93 posted on 02/26/2014 12:05:53 AM PST by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: doc1019

Shameful post.


107 posted on 02/26/2014 12:47:35 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: doc1019
Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known. A bulge in the pants could be a colostomy bag, a gun or an erection. They should wait and see and risk their live while waiting.

Yes by all means cops should have the right to beat the crap out of anyone with a pouch attached to their Stoma. The Cop needs to be horse whipped and banned from any future LEO positions. A Downs Syndrome CITIZEN usually has the functional capacity of a child. IOW it's obvious even if the Colostomy bag wasn't. BTW I know some Instant A-Hole Cops just add badge once it goes on the transition is complete. My deceased FIL was one of the worst in Eastern Tennessee history for brutality.

114 posted on 02/26/2014 2:43:21 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: doc1019
“Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known........”

On a person with Trisomy 21 YES! Plus the fact they should have realized very quickly after talking to him that he had the disorder. Any normal, rational person would come to the conclusion that this is not your average run of the mill drug runner and this person is mentally off and just send him on his way.

134 posted on 02/26/2014 7:43:30 AM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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doc1019 said: "They should wait and see and risk their live while waiting."

Do you think "a bulge in the pants" constitutes probable cause that a crime had been committed? What crime?

136 posted on 02/26/2014 9:28:29 AM PST by William Tell
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