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Lawyer: People should be ‘outraged’ (video - NMSP officer shoots, kills driver during traffic stop)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | January 17, 2014 | Andy Stiny

Posted on 01/17/2014 9:12:59 AM PST by CedarDave

Dash-cam video released Thursday shows a State Police officer running toward and alongside the car driven by Jeanette Anaya and firing multiple times into the Honda sedan as he screams expletives and for the occupants to get their hands up.

Anaya’s car did back into officer Oliver Wilson’s cruiser, apparently narrowly missing Wilson himself, but the video shows that the Honda was moving away from Wilson as most of his 16 shots were fired.

Anaya, 39, was hit and killed by two of Wilson’s shots, following a vehicle chase that started when Wilson tried to pull her over for a traffic stop after midnight on Nov. 7.

When the shooting took place, Wilson was outside his patrol car. He had used a bumping maneuver to force her car to stop on Camino Carlos Rey. All within just a few seconds, Wilson gets out of his car, Anaya backs into the cruiser, and Wilson starts shooting at Anaya’s Honda. A passenger in Anaya’s car, Jeremy Munoz, 34, was not injured.

Earlier this week, a Santa Fe County grand jury ruled that Wilson was justified in firing at Anaya and that he will face no criminal charges. Wilson testified he feared for his life when Anaya backed into his police car, according to District Attorney Angela “Spence” Pacheco.

But Tom Clark, attorney for Anaya’s parents, said Thursday that Anaya should have stopped during the car chase but that if Wilson wasn’t wearing a police uniform, he’d be facing a first-degree murder charge now.

Clark said he was “shocked and dismayed” after viewing the video.

“I had no idea it was going to be as bad as it was,” he said. “I didn’t think it would be so dramatic with the officer running alongside shooting point-blank into the car.”

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


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To: dsc

no, the cop says HE had the red light, therefore she had a green one. HE ran the red light to initiate the chase.


81 posted on 01/17/2014 10:55:14 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: dsc

“Don’t police officers have guns in part to shoot people who run?”

Um.........No?


82 posted on 01/17/2014 10:55:57 AM PST by saleman
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To: dsc

well don’t be an idiot and imply by your statement that there’s no problem here with what the SECURITY GUARD (not COP at htis point) did. Both sides are responsible for escalating this to a situation where a guy got shot for looking into a store window that has bicycles there precisely to be viewed through the store windows. That is what it boils down to.

Now if the guy had a crowbar in his hand while looking in the window, or pulled out a gun, or made some kind of finger-across-the-throat gesture to the security guard, I think it makes it entirely different.

You don’t chase someone down like you know he’s a thief for looking in a window. And then get him in an alley and shoot him. The guard’s playing cop caused this situation to end like it did. The guy LOOKED into a window of a shop that has bicycles hanging and on display.

The security guard acted like he was a cop and had the same chase and arrest powers. The guy was trying to leave and he had not committed any crimes. He hunted the guy down.

This is not the same as Zimmerman.


83 posted on 01/17/2014 10:58:27 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CedarDave

Video records the reason for the stop is erratic driving. The car appears to turn right from the center lane and does not use the right turn land. In the subsequent chase, the women does 90 mph in a residential zone, is PITed by the officer, and again fails to stop. The women reverses and rams into the driver’s side of the police car hard enough to send debris flying. Narrowly missing the officer who has exited the vehicle. In less than 3 seconds from the attempted run over of the officer, he starts firing at the driver.

If you disagree with this, watch the video first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPyUGG2LDLs

So far we have;
Failure to stop
Felony evasion
Numerous traffic violations
(remember, cars kill more people than guns)
and attempted murder on a police officer

Later we find out that the women has a warrant related to felony identity fraud.

If I am on the jury, not only do I NOT convict the officer but I recommend him for an award for keeping a violent felon off the streets and for good shooting for not hitting the passenger.


84 posted on 01/17/2014 10:59:31 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: driftdiver
"Well obviously she represented a significant threat to the officer as she drove away."

Well obviously she represented a significant threat to each and every man woman and child living in those residential neighborhoods as she recklessly raced through at up to 89 MPH.

If the LEO had let the chase continue and she had hit a single mom with two kids in the car and killed them all you would be the first one yelling that it was the cops fault because he didn't stop her when he had the chance to.

85 posted on 01/17/2014 11:01:39 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: OneWingedShark
For the video challenged...The officer used the PIT maneuver to stop the car and it positioned the fleeing car alongside the officers driver side door/front quarter panel (exact angle unknown). All that you can see next is contact made with the police car and the officer shooting as the driver attempts to flee.

If the driver backed into the police car while the officer was exiting the car, then it would have been a very dangerous position, potentially life threatening, for the officer to be in. With that said, you can't actually see where he was in the video at the time the contact was made.

86 posted on 01/17/2014 11:04:56 AM PST by kaboom
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To: oldenuff2no
Assault with a deadly weapon can not just be undone. She did it.

After this [see post 50]:

officer performed a “pursuit intervention technique,” a maneuver in which an officer tries to cause a fleeing vehicle to spin out of control.
Now if her vehicle is a deadly weapon, then so is his; and it is obvious that this maneuver, intended to make that deadly weapon spin out of control, was performed on her by the policeman before he got out of his car (and hence, before she could attempt to run him over).

Yes our Law Enforcement officers have an absolute right to go home each and every night whole and unharmed. He almost didn't get that done that night.

Because of his own aggressive actions!

87 posted on 01/17/2014 11:06:03 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: oldenuff2no

OMG. Your right. There is actually no other way to have ended this! I didn’t see it until now, and after all the other defenders of death on this topic. She’s DEAD.
1- Well I think as I sit here at my laptop, she’s wrong because of X.
2- Well , ya-no, she spoke out in class in the 8th. grade.
SHE’S DEAD..
Do we train Police, or just let them loose on the streets to figure stuff out as they go.. Pa-Leeeeeve... Oh, did this report mention, SHE’S DEAD!


88 posted on 01/17/2014 11:07:11 AM PST by WorksinKOP
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To: CedarDave
Mods didn’t like the direction the thread was going and moved to General/Chat.

...what direction is that?

89 posted on 01/17/2014 11:07:54 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No one had to die. Shot the tires or engine or nothing.


90 posted on 01/17/2014 11:08:30 AM PST by rlbedfor
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To: Responsibility2nd

Got a problem with people who are sick of their freedoms being stolen by the WOD Nazis?


91 posted on 01/17/2014 11:08:58 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: CedarDave
More details from the Santa Fe New Mexican newspaper:

Dashboard footage of fatal car chase released

In the video, Wilson emerges from the left, his gun drawn. At a brisk trot, he trails along the passenger side of Anaya’s car, firing his weapon.

Wilson fired a total of 16 times during the incident. The driver’s side seat, windows and some tires of Anaya’s vehicle were riddled with bullet holes, investigators said.

Paramedics told investigators that Anaya still had “some heart activity” when they arrived, and they had to ask officers to remove handcuffs from her so they could perform CPR. En route to the hospital, paramedics said, she was bleeding from her ears, her airway and “what appeared to be a gunshot wound to the center of her chest.”

92 posted on 01/17/2014 11:09:41 AM PST by CedarDave (Fox News - Obama couldn't sign up for healthcare because the system couldn't verify his identity!)
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To: dsc
And that is as it should be. Policemen, however, have a broader spectrum of authority.

And here I thought that authority demanded responsibility. Yet you are using authority as an excuse to not hold him to the standards that those "under his authority" are.

93 posted on 01/17/2014 11:10:08 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
...what direction is that?

Heated discussion and controversy, of course!

94 posted on 01/17/2014 11:14:11 AM PST by CedarDave (Fox News - Obama couldn't sign up for healthcare because the system couldn't verify his identity!)
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To: CedarDave
Heated discussion and controversy, of course!

...because that's bad? — I seriously don't see why it should have been moved.
*shrug*
Oh well.

95 posted on 01/17/2014 11:16:58 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: CedarDave

all citizens are suspect of late, even one’s in baby seats.


96 posted on 01/17/2014 11:20:01 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: driftdiver

I’m no defender of cops, but I’ve put myself in both people’s shoes here. Based on what is in the video, I think that guy should no longer be a cop, but from the evidence presented, he shouldn’t see jail time.


97 posted on 01/17/2014 11:21:40 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: driftdiver

Although there’s an argument that his stepping out of the car into that position was what put him in danger.


And her backing her car into a police car, nearly crushing the legs of an armed police officer, put her in danger. Apparently.

Lesson: Don’t mess with armed human beings while emotions and adrenilin is flowing. You are liable to get shot.


98 posted on 01/17/2014 11:23:37 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: dsc

“And that is as it should be. Policemen, however, have a broader spectrum of authority. They can require you to stop. Not ask; require.”

yes they can, however they can’t shoot you just for not stopping.


99 posted on 01/17/2014 11:26:19 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: OneWingedShark
"Now if her vehicle is a deadly weapon, then so is his; and it is obvious that this maneuver, intended to make that deadly weapon spin out of control, was performed on her by the policeman before he got out of his car (and hence, before she could attempt to run him over)."

You have just totally disregarded her acts of assault/attempted murder and reckless and dangerous driving for an extended period of time.

His was an act spinning her car out was to try and force the conclusion of her very dangerous and criminal act before there was any death or destruction. This procedure was approved by his superiors and his agency. There is no comparison here. She is required to stop for Law Enforcement when lights and siren are deployed, period. He is required to stop a violent felon before they can harm others. Reckless driving at 89 MPH in a residential area is a felony, and attempting to run him over with her car is a violent felony. She is not the victim she was the violent and out of control perpetrator.

Sorry if the clearly visible facts get in the way but she and he were never on equal footing in this incident. He was doing what he is paid and trained to do. He was protecting the citizens form someone who was out of control and a direct threat to every life in her path. He was attempting to apprehend someone who had just tried to kill him with her vehicle. She was committing continuing dangerous life-threatening felony criminal acts and refusing to slow down or stop as required by law.

100 posted on 01/17/2014 11:28:19 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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