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Former Guns & Ammo columnist speaks out on becoming 'a pariah'
Foxnews ^ | Jan 5, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 01/05/2014 4:33:04 PM PST by driftdiver

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To: driftdiver
“The fact is, all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.”

Tripling down on the stupid. First the oped, then the "apology" now this.

41 posted on 01/05/2014 5:55:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: driftdiver
“Compromise is a bad word these days,” Dick Metcalf, 67, told The New York Times...

Yer damned right!

Compromise is what Neville Chamberlain wanted. And we got WWII.

Compromise is what the RINO's in the US Government wanted. And we got the stealing of promised benefits from our retired veterans.

Shall I continue?

Compromise is what liberals always want when they know they can't win.

Compromise is the emasculation of conservative values...just so we can all get along.

Go to hell, Mr. Metcalf, and take your compromise with you.

In fact, take it to the unemployment office...maybe they'll grant you two and half years of benefits for it.

42 posted on 01/05/2014 5:55:54 PM PST by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: driftdiver

Compromise=capitulation.

Don’t do it.

Simple, really, Dick.

Too many on the pro gun side are sometimes soft headed. Any training being required to exercise the 2A also requires the trained exercisers of said 2A to then be on a list, and they are in essence; registered. THAT, my FRiends, is registration.

Dick Metcaff will remain disappeared until he stops insisting that it being unlawful to shout “fire” in a crowded theater is regulation. It is not regulation, it is a crime to abuse one’s protected right to free speech to cause safety issues. It is also a crime to abuse one’s protected right to be armed to cause safety issues.


43 posted on 01/05/2014 5:58:56 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: driftdiver

“Metcalf, a former history professor at both Yale and Cornell...”

That says it all...leftist is as Leftist does...equals ‘Pariah’.


44 posted on 01/05/2014 5:59:19 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: yarddog

Yes, a compromise IS both sides giving up something.

But the fallacy is that on many issues (the 2nd Amendment is a great example), one side (the gun-grabbers) has nothing to give up, so ANY compromise benefits them; conversely, pro-2nd Amendment folks HAVE something, and any compromise takes away some of that something, so they always lose.


45 posted on 01/05/2014 6:00:35 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

That is an excellent point.


46 posted on 01/05/2014 6:04:26 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: hadaclueonce

But...He Pooped...$hit on him, not on us...


47 posted on 01/05/2014 6:09:07 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: yarddog

Yes, the check came from some outfit with the name “Media” in it. Never heard of them, either.


48 posted on 01/05/2014 6:11:26 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All
“Dick thinks that 30,000 gun laws aren’t enough. All we need is one more law and everything will be so much better.”

Exactly. Dick says all the Bill of rights are regulated. That is true, in a sense, because the Rights can be abused in criminal ways. What he conveniently fails to mention is that the second amendment has been over-regulated for over a century. We need to scale back on the massive over-regulation that has taken place. We could do away with 90% of the gun laws, and the second amendment would still be over-regulated.

The reasonable analogy to “Shouting Fire! in a crowded theater” when there is no fire, is firing a gun in crowded theater when there is no legal justification to do so.

49 posted on 01/05/2014 6:11:40 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: ought-six; All
“The But the fallacy is that on many issues (the 2nd Amendment is a great example), one side (the gun-grabbers) has nothing to give up, so ANY compromise benefits them; conversely, pro-2nd Amendment folks HAVE something, and any compromise takes away some of that something, so they always lose.”

You are close. But, the “gun grabbers” have plenty to give up. They could give up the Lautenberg amendment. They could give up the Gun Free School Zone act. They could give up the 1986 ban on registering more automatics than currently exist. They could give up the insane regulation of gun mufflers and short barrelled rifles and shotguns.

They refuse to consider any of those reasonable compromises because the MSM refuses to mention them.

It is a war of definitions, with the liars in the MSM the gravest enemy.

50 posted on 01/05/2014 6:18:30 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain
The reasonable analogy to “Shouting Fire! in a crowded theater” when there is no fire, is firing a gun in crowded theater when there is no legal justification to do so.

It is astounding that a history professor at two Ivy League universities seems to be incapable of grasping that very simple legal concept. Even worse he thinks the word 'regulated' in the 2nd Amendment refers to the type of regulation he is speaking of which it absolutely does not.

That bespeaks a quality of education at Ivy League institutions on a par with the quality of software design at the healthcare.gov website.

51 posted on 01/05/2014 6:20:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: marktwain

They are not giving up anything, because it does not impact them. They give up nothing tangible, and the intangibles are not theirs anyway. Give up a gun-free zone? The property owner, and the business owner, et als still retain the right to allow what they want on their premises, and to ban what they don’t want, as long as they do not prohibit protected classes of people. I business owner can ban from his premnises loud music played by a black homosexual, but he can’t ban the black homosexual.


52 posted on 01/05/2014 6:33:24 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

I understand what you are saying. What many of these people value above all else is power over other people, and that is what my posts suggest that they give up.

I agree, they do not legitimately have it, but it is there, none the less.

They have plenty of illegitimate power to “give up”.


53 posted on 01/05/2014 6:36:44 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: TigersEye

“That bespeaks a quality of education at Ivy League institutions on a par with the quality of software design at the healthcare.gov website.”

It must be a form of wilful ignorance. He is not stupid. As Mark Twain said, it is not what he does not know that hurts him, it is what he knows that is not so.


54 posted on 01/05/2014 7:05:08 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: driftdiver
The antigun commie fags that run kalifornistan keep using "compromise" to incrementally eliminate the private ownership of all firearms.

Metcalf knew what he was doing/saying.

BTW, I used to subscribe to G&A, but I stopped. Not because of Metcalf. Because G&A sucks. How many times do I need to read about the 9mm vs 45ACP debate? It got boring after the first sixty or seventy times.

And they never reviewed a new gun they didn't like. Then you turn the page and there's an advertisement for that same gun. Curious? Not in the least.

55 posted on 01/05/2014 7:09:00 PM PST by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: driftdiver

Let’s face it, “you can’t start a stampede in a theater, so give us your guns” is a little outside the realm of reason.


56 posted on 01/05/2014 7:17:22 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: LouAvul

Actually all of the gun magazines seem to either have a $3000 M1911 or a $3500 AR on their cover nearly every month.

After they fired Metcalf I almost regretted getting a refund and cancelling. I guess they do need to learn a lesson tho.

None of the gun writers are even half as good as Elmer Keith, Skeeter Skelton, Jeff Cooper, Bill Jordan, Peter Hathaway Capstick, Charles Askins, JB Wood, Russell Annabel, Jack O’Connor and Bob Milek.

None of the current ones except maybe Layne Simpson are even in their class. There was one with a Mexican name, who I was beginning to like when he went and got himself killed, tho probably not his fault.


57 posted on 01/05/2014 7:20:47 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: marktwain

Or what he doesn’t want to know. In any conceivable case he is no friend of the 2nd Amendment.


58 posted on 01/05/2014 8:01:08 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: driftdiver

Does he not realize he was writing for “Guns & Ammo?” What a idjit he is. What did he expect?


59 posted on 01/05/2014 8:21:45 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: yarddog
Some real heavyweights you named. Skeeter's "Me and Joe" tales. Because of Bill Jordan (one of his articles describing the perfect concealed carry revolver) I swapped barrels on two M19 S&W revolvers to get a four inch barrelled round butt. I didn't like them so I switched them back.

I had a question re a hunting rifle and wrote Jack O'Conner. He actually took the time to write me a personal letter. Pity, but I lost it years ago. Cooper's Corner. Peter Capstick's "Maneaters" was always one of my favorite books.

These guys were the real deal. Who the heck is Dick Metcalf?

60 posted on 01/05/2014 8:50:58 PM PST by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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