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Why is a Children’s Hospital So Bent on Cutting Off Jahi McMath’s Life Support?
Life News ^ | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 12/30/2013 12:15:05 PM PST by Morgana

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To: Axenolith

Not that this is the same thing, but year after year when I was a small child, the Dr threatened to pull my tonsils, I had a unusual amount of strepth throats they thought.

Each time the Dr said I should have them taken out, I balled my eyes out, each time they said.... well we will put it off for now.

Years later as a adult, a different Dr told me I never had to worry about my tonsils , because they had basically disintegrated .

My point is that they were going to do a totally unnecessary operation on me because it was the thinking of the day

I don’t know anything about sleep apnea, but almost seems its the latest new wave illness

Very unfortunate that they did not leave well enough alone

The poor girl asked that they not do this to her


41 posted on 12/30/2013 4:14:23 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( Palin 2016 or bust)
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To: RginTN

They can’t take the organs without the parents permission.


42 posted on 12/30/2013 4:22:41 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Popman

“If she is really brain dead....pull the plug and let nature take it’s course....

There is the chance you may breath on her own....it’s happened before...”
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Yes, that (i.e., breathing on her own) can and frequently does happen for patients in a coma or a “persistent vegetative state”. I don’t think it happens for patients once brain death has happened.


43 posted on 12/30/2013 4:30:26 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: PLMerite

First off my first post only said “we are going to have lots of terry schiavos”.
second they said terry was in a vegetative state. she was NOT.
third i dont believe this hospital they are the ones that caused this catastrophe. i side with the parents. they know more than we.
fourth i side with life when i have to decide.
last.. i believe let the parents decide but they should be stepping up to paying for it.


44 posted on 12/30/2013 5:10:59 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: fatima

But they can take her off life support without the parents permission...uh huh..this particular hospital would not let parents permission prevent them from removing her organs.


45 posted on 12/30/2013 7:39:51 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Friendofgeorge
Are you that sure that nobody has ever come back from this exact thing?

Nobody has ever returned to life after brain death occures. Ever.

Miracles are always possible. I am sure that people have come back from this very thing

When your brain is dead, when electrical activity has ceased, when blood is no longer circulating, when cells break down, putrefaction takes place, brain mass turns to jelly, liquid rotted brain matter leaks out your nose, no, you are not coming back. No one has.

Just off top of my head, Lazarus I believed was brain dead

And how, pray tell, was Lazarus declared brain dead?

46 posted on 12/30/2013 7:54:09 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Friendofgeorge

Not that this is the same thing, but year after year when I was a small child, the Dr threatened to pull my tonsils, I had a unusual amount of strepth throats they thought.

Each time the Dr said I should have them taken out, I balled my eyes out, each time they said.... well we will put it off for now.

Years later as a adult, a different Dr told me I never had to worry about my tonsils , because they had basically disintegrated .

My point is that they were going to do a totally unnecessary operation on me because it was the thinking of the day

I don’t know anything about sleep apnea, but almost seems its the latest new wave illness

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My daughter was ADHD. Severe. Never slept and a behaviorl problem. Too late I discovered that she snored loudly when she did sleep. She always had tonsils the size of florida. When they shrunk when she was about 10, no ADHD, sound sleep. If they had been removed she would have grown up to be a very different girl.

I had the only dr in my state who refused to remove tonsils. As I aged and the tonsils collapsed I had chronic infected areas in the crypts that developed from the chronic infection. So at my great old age, I had tonsils out last summer. And it was no picnic.


47 posted on 12/30/2013 8:19:11 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: exnavy

Can you say Terri Schiavo ?


48 posted on 12/30/2013 9:03:53 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: exnavy

sounds like Jihad to me


49 posted on 12/30/2013 9:04:30 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: RginTN

Really,they have to get her in a nursing home.


50 posted on 12/31/2013 5:19:15 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Friendofgeorge

well, of course I am not sure but the family has not been able to produce one neurologist who can declare there is any chance of recovery. Only the family is privy to the state of their daughter’s physical body, though as another poster stated, a corpse on a vent still begins to rot eventually

If the doctors believed they could do a Christ like miracle I am sure the wards would be full of corpses on ventilators, waiting in line

The family hasnt even been able to find a hospice group willing to take this child’s body and keep it oxygenated, which indicates something about her condition


51 posted on 12/31/2013 8:11:07 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Axenolith

ironically apnea is weight related but also inversely so, the less sleep you get, the more weight you pile on

Have to trust that the doctors who recommended removing her tonsils and adenoids to improve her airways knew her condition better then either of us


52 posted on 12/31/2013 8:14:22 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Drew68

go psss up a stump


53 posted on 12/31/2013 12:25:44 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( Palin 2016 or bust)
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To: Chickensoup

Thanks for sharing.....Would have been nice though if this sweet little girl had not had hers out


54 posted on 12/31/2013 12:28:34 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( Palin 2016 or bust)
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To: silverleaf

Its a sad situation


55 posted on 12/31/2013 12:29:51 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( Palin 2016 or bust)
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To: Popman

“There is the chance you may breath on her own....it’s happened before.”

Yes...I remember Karen Quinlan.

This is a terrible tragedy, but by all modern reckoning, the child is dead.

She would have been declared so 1/2 hour after surgery, 70 years ago.


56 posted on 12/31/2013 12:32:37 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back! (Thanks, Phil Robertson.))
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To: Axenolith
Her tonsillectomy was to address pediatric obstructive sleep apnea, which caused severe snoring, stop-and-go breathing in her sleep, a lack of an attention span and urinating on herself.

She went through a sleep study and the physician recommended the tonsillectomy. The family sought a second opinion and the other physician agreed with the recommendation.

57 posted on 12/31/2013 1:10:37 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: lee martell
Just this morning, a local news station claimed that the girl had suffered a heart attack during her recovery.

Jahi was fine in surgery and in the recovery room.

Due to her morbid obesity, she was scheduled to spend one night in the ICU after surgery, which is not common for a tonsillectomy patient.

After thirty minutes in ICU, Jahi started bleeding profusely. She lost four pints and had four blood transfusions.

Later, in ICU, Jahi's grandmother noticed that Jahi's blood oxygen level was dropping. She alerted the nurses. Jahi went into cardiac arrest. Physician performed heart compressions and tried different blood clotting medicines, none of which worked.

During resuscitation, Jahi lost a lost of oxygen to the brain. The following day, a CT showed that 2/3 of her brain was swollen.

The swelling continued until she was 100% brain dead.

This description comes from Jahi's uncle, Omari Sealey, on a CNN phone interview.

58 posted on 12/31/2013 1:23:37 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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