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Another hit piece on vitamins. Watch for legislation or Executive Decree to save us ignorant peasants from too much health freedom.
1 posted on 12/21/2013 9:50:35 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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I do wonder why all the hit pieces lately. Is it an austerity measure?


2 posted on 12/21/2013 9:55:51 PM PST by ransomnote
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“But the supplement business is largely unregulated.... “

the fda should regulate vitamins like they do pharmaceuticals . they don’t have side effects or recalls when the fda is in charge.


3 posted on 12/21/2013 9:56:57 PM PST by willywill
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I've been wondering/worried about this myself.

Vitamins and supplements are a way that we can stay healthy and live longer, in spite of the heath collectives (exchanges); could that be what this is about?

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4 posted on 12/21/2013 10:14:06 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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Supplements are beneficial when taken in proper amounts for the right reasons. Some people just get carried away taking stuff that has not been proven healthy or effective.


5 posted on 12/21/2013 10:14:20 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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***But the supplement business is largely unregulated....***

Wow - good thing we have the Nanny State to protect us from those evil businessmen! Looking to make a profit by offering a quality product that fills a need - how can they be trusted?


6 posted on 12/21/2013 10:15:13 PM PST by Paulie
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TOTAL HOGWASH.

The real problem is CHINA which supplies 90% of the inputs.

They’re world famous for having no quality control but the nanny staters don’t want you knowing this.


9 posted on 12/21/2013 10:33:03 PM PST by gaijin
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My body does not tolerate Green Tea. My dentist’s office has a drink maker machine and I usually select a cup of regular coffee. Whenever I opt for Green Tea, it makes me pee constantly. So I stay away from it.


10 posted on 12/21/2013 10:33:48 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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California has now outlawed Cinnimon + Gymena + Mulberry exteact that ive taken for years and works for diabetes better than the Big pharma products that i was taking

Big gov and big pharma are the problem

do agree some foreign products need to be scrutinized however


20 posted on 12/21/2013 11:10:04 PM PST by jcon40
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California has now outlawed Cinnimon + Gymena + Mulberry exteact that ive taken for years and works for diabetes better than the Big pharma products that i was taking

Big gov and big pharma are the problem

do agree some foreign products need to be scrutinized however


21 posted on 12/21/2013 11:10:04 PM PST by jcon40
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Spike Lee harms lliver...


29 posted on 12/22/2013 1:14:03 AM PST by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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There is no information about how much green tea extract Christopher Herrera drank. I imagine he chugged the entire bottle.

In 2007 The U.S. Pharmacopeia (USP) Dietary Supplement Information Expert Committee voted to require cautionary statements on the labels for green tea extracts and black cohosh dietary supplements. There was concern about possible liver damage for a small group of people susceptible to side effects taking these supplements.

Their warning for green tea said, “Caution: Must take with a meal. In rare cases extracts from green tea have been reported to adversely affect the liver. Discontinue use and consult a healthcare practitioner if you have a liver disorder or develop symptoms of liver trouble, such as abdominal pain, dark urine, or jaundice.”

The cautionary statement for black cohosh supplements read: “Caution: In rare cases black cohosh has been reported to affect the liver. Discontinue use and consult a healthcare practitioner if you have a liver disorder or develop symptoms of liver trouble, such as abdominal pain, dark urine, or jaundice.

In 2008 the USP decided to defer its warning label for green tea extract because of the rareness of cases with liver damage. It kept the warning for black cohosh.

Green tea extracts can contain extremely high doses of polyphenols which can cause damage to liver tissue. According to the University of Maryland Medical Center, the standard recommended adult dosage for green tea extract is 100 to 750 milligrams a day. Intakes above that may be toxic.


31 posted on 12/22/2013 1:35:53 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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The article cleary states they are not talking about vitamins and minerals, but primarily weight loss, bodybuliding, and energy supplements.


32 posted on 12/22/2013 1:36:22 AM PST by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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I have definitely noticed hit pieces on vitamins, also.

Clearly someone is drawing a bead on vitamins.

I expect liberals to attempt to regulate them.


33 posted on 12/22/2013 1:49:55 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty, bring him back...)
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Just read the article. A pop-up told me I had read 5 of 10 free articles this month. Do I want to pay 99 cents for unlimited access?


35 posted on 12/22/2013 2:32:26 AM PST by AmericaUnite
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Time for a “War on Vitamins” pinglist.


36 posted on 12/22/2013 3:43:31 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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Dietary supplements account for nearly 20 percent of drug-related liver injuries that turn up in hospitals, up from 7 percent a decade ago ...

How many "drug related liver injuries that turn up in hospitals" are there, total? Is the total incidence up or down? Assuming that acetaminophen overdose is another main cause, has the publicity and changes in drug marketing reduced those cases, giving other causes a higher percentage?

37 posted on 12/22/2013 4:20:32 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Our infinite sadness can only be cured by an infinite love." ~Pope Francis)
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“When a product is regulated, you know the benefits and the risks and you can make an informed decision about whether or not to take it,”

No, not with all the law suits over deaths and complications we're seeing from so many.

42 posted on 12/22/2013 6:01:24 AM PST by bgill
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I think everyone concluded what I did, that this is now a PR effort to attack the supplement industry by person or persons unknown.

The first suspicion should not be of big pharma, but of the government. It comes across as another one of their ham-handed propaganda efforts.

As far as supplements go, one of the biggest reasons to use them is that a lot of modern medicine *requires* their use, or you will get side effects that could kill you.

For example, statin drugs to lower cholesterol.

If you take statin drugs like Lipitor (atorvastatin), Zocor (simvastatin), Mevacor (lovastatin), Pravachol (pravastatin), and Crestor (rosuvastatin); you *must* take several supplements, because it *also* blocks or inhibits these things, which are essential to the body.

You need to take:

CoQ10, or its active ingredient, Ubiquinol. Its production in your body is blocked by statin drugs, and if you have too little, it can harm every organ in your body, starting with your heart.

Dolichols. Dolichol acts on a molecular (DNA) level to ensure that the cells in our bodies ‘work’ as they are supposed to. So a dolichol deficiency can cause havoc in virtually any area of our body, and because it is done on a cellular level it is extremely difficult to pinpoint where, what and how the problem is happening.

There is no supplement for dolichol.

Squalene (not related to squalane or squamous cell carcinoma.) The immediate precursor of cholesterol is squalene. Researchers have found that squalene inhibits blood vessels formation in tumors. Squalene is a natural and vital part of the synthesis of all plant and animal sterols, including cholesterol, steroid hormones, and vitamin D in the human body. Unless you take it as a supplement, to get it naturally you must consume large amounts of rice bran, wheat germ, and olives.

Other nutrients believed to be negatively impacted by statins include carnitine, omega-3 oils, vitamin E, selenium, creatine and vitamin D.

Reducing LDL (bad) cholesterol below a certain level in the blood can interfere with downstream processes involving sex hormones, cortisol, aldosterone, DHEA and vitamin D.


46 posted on 12/22/2013 6:38:12 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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Both physicians and big Pharm HATE supplements because 1) they do not control them and 2) supplements cut into their business by keeping people healthy.


47 posted on 12/22/2013 6:42:02 AM PST by La Lydia
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Folks, the study itself states that there is no proof that green tea extract is implicated in any form of liver damage:

“CONCLUSIONS:

Many HDS commonly contain catechins that are implicated in hepatotoxicity, although their presence may not be indicated on the product label. Although our results did not establish an association between GTE or catechins with hepatotoxicity, they highlight some of the many complexities and uncertainties that surround the attribution of drug-induced liver injury (DILI) to HDS.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23625293

48 posted on 12/22/2013 8:34:12 AM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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