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BCS standings released, Week 15: Ohio State vs. Auburn the final rankings debate
SB Nation ^ | Dec 1 2013 | Jason Kirk

Posted on 12/02/2013 8:34:12 AM PST by xzins

With one week to go before the BCS rankings leave us forever, an undefeated Big Ten power missing out on the national championship is somehow an actual worry. Meanwhile, Florida State's sitting pretty. Full standings below.

It doesn't matter that Ohio State went 12-0 last year. It doesn't matter that an unbeaten Auburn was shut out of the BCS National Championship in 2004. It doesn't matter that Ohio State has lost two national title games against SEC teams in recent years. It doesn't matter that the SEC has won seven straight championships.

Or at least it shouldn't.

What will matter, however, is whether the BCS polls and computers rank Ohio State or Auburn No. 2 next week, assuming the Buckeyes and (burnt orange and navy blue) Tigers win their respective conferences. We'd thought we were just about done with the season's series of debates over which team should rank No. 2 and which should rank No. 3, but we've only just now arrived at the biggest one yet.

For now, the updated BCS standings after Week 14's wild weekend:

A win by either the Spartans or the other Tigers would render all this moot (except for Auburn athletic director Jay Jacobs suddenly becoming a huge Mizzou* fan, we trust).

* Though Missouri would have a better case for No. 2 than Auburn would, if you ask me, since the (black and gold) Tigers have spent most of the year smashing fools by exorbitant margins. But nobody's asking me. Mizzou's probably too far back to jump that far, barring insanity.

If our new Nos. 2 and 3 win their conferences, the polls would be where Florida State finds its Pasadena opponent. While many voters would fall back on the SEC's presumed strength of schedule and difficulty (and most strength of schedule numbers do rate Auburn's as tougher so far), others would sympathize with a 13-0 BCS conference champion that was ineligible last year. At the moment, the Buckeyes hold that advantage, and would any voters who were unconvinced by an Auburn win over Alabama really be swayed by one over Missouri?

The difference could be Urban Meyer, who's successfully stumped his team into a BCS National Championship before -- and that was an SEC team at the expense of a Big Ten team. But do voters still think of Meyer as they did then? Whether Meyer's national profile has changed since '06 due to various controversies would actually matter. Like, actually help determine the season's champion. That's insane and ridiculous, but it's the system.

We don't know whether Auburn or Ohio State would win the right to go play FSU if the two played on a neutral field. We don't have a playoff yet, not for 12 more months. We do know the Buckeyes have won all but two of their games by multiple scores, while Auburn's won by a single score six times (including the two luckiest, most improbable winning plays of the year). Auburn's also lost a game by 14 points. Gus Malzahn and Nick Marshall have led an immaculate rebuild, but let's not let that loss be a footnote.

So it begins. One more week. The only vital contributions to the debate going forward will be those made by the players on the field in the Big Ten and SEC championship games.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Sports
KEYWORDS: bcs; college; collegefootball; football; playoffs
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To: CommerceComet

And you have tapped into the C Edmund Wright theory of “the big dis” - when in this situation, where there will be nothing but a solid week of talk about one game…and all that talk will say OSU will lose….this will give OSU a much better chance than otherwise, because they’ll be so sick and tired of hearing they have no chance.

This only happens in certain situations, where there is intense coverage, a lull between other games, and a big assumption of one team over another. Think Texas and Vince Young, having zero chance against S Cal and Reggie Bush, in Pasadena.

Think Lousville having zero chance v Florida in the Sugar last year.

These things matter…...


201 posted on 12/02/2013 11:46:11 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: lepton

“Rivalry game...that was Michigan’s entire season riding on the line at home.”

..and a lifetime of accomplishment. Win that game and they are heroes for life.


People who don’t recognize that fact never played sports on the collegiate level.


202 posted on 12/02/2013 11:46:36 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Think Lousville having zero chance v Florida in the Sugar last year.

Anyone who watched Florida last year, would have known Louisville had a great chance in that one. They barely beat Louisiana-Lafayette, and that would have been just as embarrassing as losing to Georgia Southern.

203 posted on 12/02/2013 11:47:16 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: petitfour

Yep he missed his home state of Ohio...the heart of it all. So he’s comfortable now.


204 posted on 12/02/2013 11:47:47 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: xzins

Not sure where you’re headed with 195


205 posted on 12/02/2013 11:48:02 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: CommerceComet
I remember that when the Buckeyes won their last national title, few people gave them any chance against Miami

I remember that too. Even less people than "few" gave them a chance...if there is such a thing. Miami was just too fast for them.
206 posted on 12/02/2013 11:48:08 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: for-q-clinton

Foley made a major mistake in allowing him to come back for his final year at UF, the program still hasn’t recovered, and especially with the Leg-Humper Imposter of a Coach.


207 posted on 12/02/2013 11:48:55 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Hey weren’t you the one complaining about comparing a single school to an entire conference.

But I’ll take your challenge and say OSU is better then the entire SEC this year.


208 posted on 12/02/2013 11:49:22 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Gulf War One

“BTW, when is the last time OSU beat someone from the SEC? Any southern team for that matter?”

8th ranked Arkansas 2011, in Louisiana, after Arkansas beat 6th ranked LSU (in Arkansas).


209 posted on 12/02/2013 11:50:00 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Just reiterating my point that there’s not much difference between these teams. (Only being sneaky about it.:>)


210 posted on 12/02/2013 11:50:46 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: dfwgator
One of the problems with ...

That's not a problem. It's a team sport. If a member of the team goes down, the team should be affected.

211 posted on 12/02/2013 11:51:44 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: for-q-clinton
But then again FSU
And FSU's quarterback may be ineligible if he's brought into that outstanding rape case....

212 posted on 12/02/2013 11:51:59 AM PST by jrg
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To: jrg
And FSU's quarterback may be ineligible if he's brought into that outstanding rape case....

Three words, "Duke Lacrosse Team".

I'm sure Winston isn't a saint, but after the Duke case, I'm skeptical of these things, as much as I'd like to see FSU go down.

213 posted on 12/02/2013 11:53:11 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: dfwgator

They were much better than they are this year, but tha’ts beside the point. The media gave Florida a huge win over Lousville, and it ticked off UL and they killed Florida.


214 posted on 12/02/2013 11:53:22 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
They were much better than they are this year,

LOL, that's not saying much.

215 posted on 12/02/2013 11:54:29 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: dfwgator; C. Edmund Wright

I think the injuries in football are more frequently devastating to the player. Take out a star qback and you’ve generally ruined a team’s chances.

In basketball with only 5 starters and 2 real subs, it’s easier to hurt a team’s chances. Although Louisville survived it last year.


216 posted on 12/02/2013 11:54:49 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

It’s rare that I do, but I reject your premise on this.


217 posted on 12/02/2013 11:54:55 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Easy . . . giving Big 10 teams way too much credit for strength of schedule.


218 posted on 12/02/2013 11:55:28 AM PST by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: dfwgator

He might not be guilty but there is at least DNA evidence of contact. That coupled with the warning given to the accuser by the Tallahassee police department makes this far more than the complete made-BS of the Duke LAX team.


219 posted on 12/02/2013 11:55:30 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

We’ll see.


220 posted on 12/02/2013 11:55:55 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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