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BCS standings released, Week 15: Ohio State vs. Auburn the final rankings debate
SB Nation ^ | Dec 1 2013 | Jason Kirk

Posted on 12/02/2013 8:34:12 AM PST by xzins

With one week to go before the BCS rankings leave us forever, an undefeated Big Ten power missing out on the national championship is somehow an actual worry. Meanwhile, Florida State's sitting pretty. Full standings below.

It doesn't matter that Ohio State went 12-0 last year. It doesn't matter that an unbeaten Auburn was shut out of the BCS National Championship in 2004. It doesn't matter that Ohio State has lost two national title games against SEC teams in recent years. It doesn't matter that the SEC has won seven straight championships.

Or at least it shouldn't.

What will matter, however, is whether the BCS polls and computers rank Ohio State or Auburn No. 2 next week, assuming the Buckeyes and (burnt orange and navy blue) Tigers win their respective conferences. We'd thought we were just about done with the season's series of debates over which team should rank No. 2 and which should rank No. 3, but we've only just now arrived at the biggest one yet.

For now, the updated BCS standings after Week 14's wild weekend:

A win by either the Spartans or the other Tigers would render all this moot (except for Auburn athletic director Jay Jacobs suddenly becoming a huge Mizzou* fan, we trust).

* Though Missouri would have a better case for No. 2 than Auburn would, if you ask me, since the (black and gold) Tigers have spent most of the year smashing fools by exorbitant margins. But nobody's asking me. Mizzou's probably too far back to jump that far, barring insanity.

If our new Nos. 2 and 3 win their conferences, the polls would be where Florida State finds its Pasadena opponent. While many voters would fall back on the SEC's presumed strength of schedule and difficulty (and most strength of schedule numbers do rate Auburn's as tougher so far), others would sympathize with a 13-0 BCS conference champion that was ineligible last year. At the moment, the Buckeyes hold that advantage, and would any voters who were unconvinced by an Auburn win over Alabama really be swayed by one over Missouri?

The difference could be Urban Meyer, who's successfully stumped his team into a BCS National Championship before -- and that was an SEC team at the expense of a Big Ten team. But do voters still think of Meyer as they did then? Whether Meyer's national profile has changed since '06 due to various controversies would actually matter. Like, actually help determine the season's champion. That's insane and ridiculous, but it's the system.

We don't know whether Auburn or Ohio State would win the right to go play FSU if the two played on a neutral field. We don't have a playoff yet, not for 12 more months. We do know the Buckeyes have won all but two of their games by multiple scores, while Auburn's won by a single score six times (including the two luckiest, most improbable winning plays of the year). Auburn's also lost a game by 14 points. Gus Malzahn and Nick Marshall have led an immaculate rebuild, but let's not let that loss be a footnote.

So it begins. One more week. The only vital contributions to the debate going forward will be those made by the players on the field in the Big Ten and SEC championship games.


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KEYWORDS: bcs; college; collegefootball; football; playoffs
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To: dfwgator

LOL.


141 posted on 12/02/2013 10:45:23 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy; Jemian
Good afternoon (in my timezone)

And here is more proof that God is an Auburn fan...

After the three games I watched, the Lord might just be a Tiger's fan.

5.56mm

142 posted on 12/02/2013 10:47:12 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: TexasFreeper2009

>> All I have to say is... may the best team win :)

I can’t argue with that, but I am kind of hoping Texas will. :-)


143 posted on 12/02/2013 10:54:25 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: for-q-clinton
If they were in an AQ absolutely but they aren’t so they can be judged a bit differently.

So you admit that the conference you are in matters along with SOS. In terms of conference rankings, I would put the SEC clearly in front followed by the PAC 12, Big 10, and Big 12. The SEC champion deserves to be in the title game, especially with only one loss.

144 posted on 12/02/2013 11:00:22 AM PST by kabar
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To: Servant of the Cross

Normally, I’d pick FSU - assuming they dispatch Duke by like 24 or more…and Ohio State beats Mich State….somewhat handily….simply because the souther teams’ speed owns the Big Ten in almost all of these games. ALMOST all.

But, if all the media would pick FSU….like they did Sou Cal over Texas in the BCS…or for example Florida over Louisville last year in that bowl….I’d go counter intuitive and pick OSU.

(and Louisville and Texas won, UL rather handily, both citing mediia coverage as a huge motivator).

Getting “dissed” by the media is worth like 14-21 points in these games, thus I’d wait and see how the national mood is. Also would want to see how the Winston affair turns out.

Oh, another factor, Braxton might get ticked at all the love for Jameis….ala all the love for Reggie Bush versus Vince Young. Young outplayed Bush.


145 posted on 12/02/2013 11:00:46 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Rannug
I don’t think that any other NCAA team could have beaten UM Saturday.

LOL. Michigan is a shadow of its former self. Michigan was lucky to get by Akron and Connecticut.

146 posted on 12/02/2013 11:03:27 AM PST by kabar
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To: RckyRaCoCo

see once again SEC gets two chances to make it to the big dance in your proposed match up.

I’d like to see the SEC champ play the PAC10 Champ for a shot at playing FSU or OSU.


147 posted on 12/02/2013 11:04:46 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: dfwgator
Since they've all become "mythical championships"...

"I know! Let's have a spelling contest!"

148 posted on 12/02/2013 11:05:17 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: lepton

The speed was about the line not just the backfield. OSU’s offensive line couldn’t block the Gators faster defensive linemen and linebackers. So they were able to overwhelm the QB.


149 posted on 12/02/2013 11:06:06 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes

Very good insight.

If OSU went to the SEC they’d be #1 hands down.


150 posted on 12/02/2013 11:07:08 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
One loss excludes you when there are 2 other qualified teams that are undefeated...

Nonsense. Northern Illinois is undefeated and Fresno State just missed out on an undefeated regular season. I guess it depends on what the meaning of "qualified" is.

151 posted on 12/02/2013 11:08:07 AM PST by kabar
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To: xzins

It’s worse than just that. The Rose Bowl is a home game for USC and UCLA three time zones away from the Mid-west. The Sugar Bowl for LSU. The Orange Bowl is home for Miami, and local for Florida teams. The Cotton Bowl for Texas.


152 posted on 12/02/2013 11:08:15 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yep and so far the only two teams remaining are OSU and FSU. All others teams have received a big L. Now if FSU or OSU lose next week...oh man this will be a mess...especially if both lose because the SEC outcry to get back in at #2 have #3, 4, and 5 spots in the poll. Could we have an all SEC title game if both FSU and OSU lose. That would be a joke.


153 posted on 12/02/2013 11:08:48 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Mase
It's interesting that their only real competition for the year will come at the end of the year.

Kind of like Alabama, huh?

154 posted on 12/02/2013 11:09:37 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
And neither should have Alabama...

Correct. Bama wins then the argument is moot. Instead they give up a 109 yard field goal return in one of the flukiest final plays I've ever seen.
155 posted on 12/02/2013 11:12:32 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Hotlanta Mike
OSU also made a play at the end of the game to preserve the win. On the road. In front of 110,000 rabid fans. Playing against their bitter rival for the 109th time.

Prior to that game Michigan had lost to Penn State, Michigan State, Iowa, and Nebraska. It took them three OT's to get by Northwestern and they were fortunate to beat Akron.

156 posted on 12/02/2013 11:12:54 AM PST by kabar
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Shhhh....don’t let them know about FSU having a super weak schedule. No one is complaining about that...only about OSU because they are trying to keep them from the title game...the SEC doesn’t want to face them this year they know what Meyer will do to them. After all he dominated the SEC already.

Let them think FSU is a powerhouse so if/when OSU wins it will be even sweeter.


157 posted on 12/02/2013 11:13:34 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: xzins
How does FSU stack up in this comparison?
158 posted on 12/02/2013 11:13:35 AM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: Mase

Please read this: http://m.thepostgame.com/commentary/201208/better-without-em-northern-manifesto-southern-secession-chuck-thompson-sec-bcs


159 posted on 12/02/2013 11:15:26 AM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

You mean the Kiffin emasculated Tennessee team??? Not a good measure . . . What about Auburn - Oregon in the title game???


160 posted on 12/02/2013 11:16:08 AM PST by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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