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New Doubts about the Value of a College Degree
American Thinker ^ | 11/20/2013 | Gary Jason

Posted on 11/20/2013 9:52:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

An interesting read, but no mention is made of what *kind* of degree is obtained. STEM isn’t mentioned at all. I think the numbers would be a lot different if they differentiated between BA and BS. I think any study that doesn’t do that is worthless because they’re comparing Marketing majors to Electrical Engineering majors.

Good points about BA degrees being used as “sorting mechanisms.” Another name for this is “credentialism.” HR people are the worse technocrats in any large company, and anything that allows them to toss applications wholesale without thinking about it is golden to them. You can’t get a job drawing blood without a Bachelor’s degree, and that’s insane.


21 posted on 11/20/2013 11:34:53 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: SeekAndFind
My BA in Broadcasting isn't worth the paper it's printed on. The only thing it can do for me anymore is (hopefully) get me into law school this fall.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

22 posted on 11/20/2013 12:00:11 PM PST by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: old and tired

You are correct. As with any bubble, when (not if) the higher ed bubble bursts, collateral service providers will be affected, much like the minimally trained twenty something loan brokers of 2007 were affected when the real estate bubble burst.


23 posted on 11/20/2013 2:07:39 PM PST by p. henry
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To: SeekAndFind

Really, it depends on the degree. You know, is your degree in “Underwater Basket Weaving” or “Computer Science”?


24 posted on 11/20/2013 3:07:08 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Yeah, but the bursting of the education bubble is going to make the mortgage bubble look like a walk in the park. At least here in the Philadelphia area. It may not be as bad in the rest of the country.


25 posted on 11/20/2013 4:24:49 PM PST by old and tired
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To: SeekAndFind

It is not the degree.

The value of colleges has gone down.

There are whole departments to “junk science/fields” which are nothing more than make work areas of the ivory tower.

Contrast with the courts which had to enact rules to adress junk science experts for made up fields.

we have gone from well rounded individual to well trained individual into totally indoctrinated individual.

The last one being of no benefit except to that of the ruling eliete as serfs.


26 posted on 11/22/2013 1:33:45 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind

South Koreans also put far too much stock in a college degree


27 posted on 11/22/2013 1:41:43 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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some college was teaching students how to pleasure themselves the other day


28 posted on 11/22/2013 1:43:24 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SeekAndFind
If someone is footing the bill for a full time experience in a college environment, it's still worth it. If not, it makes more sense to work and take courses at the same time. Someone who chooses a job intelligently while working their way through college will be with a company that has a reputation for hiring people full time when they become qualified for positions within the company.

Even in today's environment, I've seen students who've done that and ended up in really fine management training and home office situations upon graduation.

29 posted on 11/22/2013 1:47:32 PM PST by grania
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it USED to be a european diploma meant something because european countries had very few universities and selective admissions.

no so any more, in gneral.

eu diplomas have socilism based degrees that have no value just as much as usa schools.


30 posted on 11/22/2013 2:06:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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