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I disagree with your premise, but I will for now for arguments sake. If what you say is true, it still shows that Joe Paterno was a phony to his core. Like a long line of other phony coaches in the past and present, when given a chance to show true leadership and character, they fail miserably, every time. I bet Paterno got up in front of the crowd at rubber chicken banquets hundreds if not thousands of times giving some speech about leadership and character, and how he personified it at Penn State. But in the end it was just BS for the jock sniffers to devour. When given the chance to live up to his own standards, he retreated like the coward he really was into bureaucratic mumbo jumbo. He was more concerned about his own legacy than any of the crimes that Sandusky committed. A true jerk. A true hypocrite, who hid behind his holier than thou personae. A real man of character, not the lesser type like Paterno, would have marched right to the police and reported this heinous crime, all other considerations be damned. In the end, he would have been a hero if he did the right thing. That is the irony of this tragedy. But this strange and weird guy, and he was, took the route of selfishness and cowardice. The truth, he did what he did because he truly was a putrid little man. As for his defenders, I recognize them too. In my younger days I was an athlete in college, even played against Penn State in another sport. His defenders remind me of the pain in the ass hangers on, weirdos, who wanted to just hang out with athletes. True jock sniffers.

Can you not read? Mike McQueary testified in court that he never saw a rape. That he never used the term rape. Period.

He also is on record as saying that he gave Joe a watered down version of what he THOUGHT he witnessed.

The whole “MM told Joe he saw a 10 year old boy being raped in the shower” is nothing but fiction and fantasy.

Joe did what he was supposed to do. Deal with it. The lead prosecutor agrees.

Sheesh again!

A real man of character, not the lesser type like Paterno, would have marched right to the police and reported this heinous crime, all other considerations be damned. In the end, he would have been a hero if he did the right thing. That is the irony of this tragedy.

Exactly my point to Colorornian, which the OP for this thread refuses to acknowledge.

The OP opened the thread with a challenge to all commenters that anything he disagreed with would be because the commenters are "Haters".

The OP will continue spitting and fuming at everyone. If he is lucky, he won't get Zotted, but I suspect that will be his fate, either from this thread, or from the next one he posts.

I don't intend to engage with him, as I think that's what he lives for.

Somehow he thinks he is going to get FReepers to not see the simple logic of your comment above, and listen instead to things like "well, Sandusky(sp?) was a 10 year old boy raper, but it wasn't rape-rape", or some such nonsense. And even if he was "well, what could anyone really do about it, y'know?"

Appreciated your post gusty, and yours too Colorfornian, goodnight to you both.