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1 posted on 10/16/2013 12:09:44 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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2 posted on 10/16/2013 12:10:48 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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this scenario is going to create more Republican states that will represent the kind of constituencies that are already over-represented.”

Over represented? Delusion is a disease.

3 posted on 10/16/2013 12:18:07 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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This situation is created and reinforced by a SCOTUS ruling (I cant remember the title off the top of my head) which prevents the states from having two houses, one representing a land area such as the counties. The distribution of state senate AND house is now done exclusively by population.

I am of the opinion that there is a growing divide between country/rural/city. This pressure will only continue to increase as the city pushes for the enforcement of their ideals upon country/rural population. If allowed to continue, this will again result in a civil war.

I also believe that the ONLY long term fix for this situation is a constitutional amendment that requires the states to model their state governments in the following manner. An upper chamber composed of 1 Senator per county and a lower chamber composed of an equal number of representatives who are apportioned by population. Absent that fix, I do not see any possibility of avoiding an eventual Civil War II.


4 posted on 10/16/2013 12:18:45 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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“Which raises the obvious question: Would it be that bad if we added more states?”

No, but America is full of sentimental idiots that think the way the map looks now, and the number of stars were ordained in 1787 (assuming they know what 1787 means).

“New state formations would be disastrously expensive, Cain said, and the areas that want to secede simply don’t have the economic capacity to pay for the level of services they would need as states.”

???

Okay. That didnt make any sense. If a new state doesnt have a money sucking large city in it, and they live with a budget, then they can do perfectly fine.

Hawaii certainly doesn’t anything going for it, and it became a state. I still think we made it a state because we felt sorry for what happened at Perl Harbor.


5 posted on 10/16/2013 12:20:14 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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. . . areas that want to secede simply don’t have the economic capacity to pay for the level of services they would need as states.

Bullsh*t! Wyoming, just to take one example, has a large area, a small population and is one of the best fiscally managed states in the country.

It is isolated, cold and has a rather high cost of living (excluding taxes) compared to the rest of the country.

But it is extremely well-run and business friendly. Maybe it has something to do with the Democrat party holding only 4 of 30 and 8 of 60 seats in each chamber of the state legislature. Ya think?

7 posted on 10/16/2013 12:27:24 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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None of the arguments against smaller (population) states bears up under scrutiny. The most easily demolished is the argument that smaller states can’t afford the cost of statehood. A look at state debts per capita destroys that argument.


9 posted on 10/16/2013 12:29:49 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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I thought we already had 57 states?


10 posted on 10/16/2013 12:38:31 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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But it’s probably in our best interest to have large, diverse states, which tend to keep extremists conservatives from misusing their power.

What he REALLY means.

11 posted on 10/16/2013 1:43:15 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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