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‘Too much, too soon’: Children should not start school until age six or seven, say education experts
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 04:46 EST, 12 September 2013 | Sara Smyth

Posted on 09/12/2013 7:48:58 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: AlexW

And any discipline is too much.
I did some work for the local branch of those hell holes... run by the wife of the mayor at the time.

Montessori schools work like some of the ivy league universities. They do IQ testing and only take students who are bright enough to succeed in spite of neglect and lack of meaningful guidance. Claim credit in spite of minimal instructions given.


21 posted on 09/12/2013 8:12:15 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Olog-hai

Children should never start school.


22 posted on 09/12/2013 8:12:19 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Olog-hai

My daughter ended up waiting until she was 6 going on 7 a few weeks after starting.

Now they have been pressuring us to advance her a grade or two but I wont do it. In my view emotional maturity is much more important than academics. She can always make up not starting college or whatever a few years earlier but she can never make up the lost years of being a kid.


23 posted on 09/12/2013 8:14:20 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Olog-hai

Nonsense. I - all my siblings were reading at age 4. The Queen Elizabeth I was writing in three languages at seven. Mozart was composing piano pieces at the same age.
Children can start learning when they are encouraged - of course, if it’s a crappy public school, they should not go at all.


24 posted on 09/12/2013 8:18:06 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Olog-hai

Except that most kids need some sort of learning well before age five.

My daughter knows her letters, numbers, and is starting to learn words at age 4.


25 posted on 09/12/2013 8:19:07 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: AlexW

Montessori is wrong, because it tries to hijack play and make it into “learning”. Kids are entitled to play, just for fun, and it should be left alone.


26 posted on 09/12/2013 8:20:29 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Olog-hai

I have to agree. My parents started me in kindergarten at exactly 4 1/2 yrs old in January 1947. It was an experimental program. The school administration soon realized that after one year in kindergarten, we were still too young for first grade so they created a temporary 6 month “transition” class for us. Then they went back to the 5 years old age requirement.

The first few days in kindergarten were rough for me, I remember I tried to run away home one day. The janitor (a wonderful man, I still remember his name) caught me going out the front door and carried me back to the classroom!


27 posted on 09/12/2013 8:21:07 PM PDT by chronicles
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To: DManA

My nephew’s oldest child was a boy born on August 26th. He is very bright and has a good personality. Already at age 3 years, 9 months, he passed the so-called screening for being ready for Kindergarten. The next year he passed again. But the parents kept him back so when he began school he was 6 years and 7 days old.

It was a good decision because he is physically a smaller child, and needed to grow a bit to match the other kids.


28 posted on 09/12/2013 8:22:39 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: AlexW

There is no one size fits all solution for ever single child.

Just like everything else in life.


29 posted on 09/12/2013 8:25:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: kabumpo

I don’t think that HRH or Wolfgang were learning their skills at a public school as we know them. Wolfgang got his education from his father; Elizabeth I had tutors from Cambridge.


30 posted on 09/12/2013 8:26:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Experts ... right. I started kindergarten when I was 5, but it helped that I was already reading things like the newspaper at that time. One size does NOT fit all kids.


31 posted on 09/12/2013 8:29:54 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: kabumpo

From Human Growth and Development (1980), kids started young do better till about third grade, age 10. Then students who started at six pass them with better grades, more originality, and less anxiety and neurosis throughout life.


32 posted on 09/12/2013 8:31:36 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: Olog-hai

What?? No free baby sitting service with meals included???


33 posted on 09/12/2013 8:41:44 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: AlexW

And no “pocket” is turned down...


34 posted on 09/12/2013 8:42:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai

OK.

So, as long as they get gay sex ed from day one.

/s


35 posted on 09/12/2013 8:43:25 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: kabumpo; MrEdd

“Montessori is wrong,”
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Well, most any early ed schooling can mask itself as Montessori.
I am referring to a few that I had experience with back in the eighties, and there was a minimum age, the same as kindergarten. They were accredited by the American Montessori Society.
My wife even started a small business, producing teaching aids. We sold them all over the US and other countries.
One was a set of eight land and water forms, another was a farm set. We also produced a grammar set for teaching the parts of speech. Montessori can go all the way through high school.


36 posted on 09/12/2013 8:44:11 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Olog-hai

It all depends on the child.

I started kindergarten right after turning 5, and could have safely skipped a few grades without missing anything.

My younger son, OTOH, was one of the older kids in his class, so theoretically was more mature. He never did well in school.


37 posted on 09/12/2013 8:44:59 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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“Montessori schools work like some of the ivy league universities. They do IQ testing and only take students who are bright”
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That IS NOT a Montessori school, but con artist masking as Montessori.


38 posted on 09/12/2013 8:49:56 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: txrefugee
Our scores were higher in the 50s and 60s before kindergarten became the vogue.

I was 4 when I started kindergarten in 1965. Granted, I turned 5 only 3 weeks later and was 5 when I started 1st grade. 2 years later, my brother also started kindergarten at 4 and didn't turn 5 until 3 months later and also started 1st grade at 5. We both turned out just fine.

39 posted on 09/12/2013 8:53:40 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: KC_Lion
Where Achievement is punished and ridiculed by a apathetic student body and the whole point of the education is to produce barley functioning students so they are more easily swayed to a certain point of view.

Oh really? The only function barley has in my daughter's life is on her dinner plate.

You didn't use to start school until you 6 or some almost 7!

As I commented in another post, I started at age 4 and that was 1965. And I went to Catholic school.

40 posted on 09/12/2013 8:58:26 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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