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No-Smoking Battle Moves Outdoors As Bans Increase
CNSNews ^ | 8/8/2013 | MIKE STOBBE

Posted on 08/08/2013 7:23:52 AM PDT by rktman

First it was bars, restaurants and office buildings. Now the front lines of the "No Smoking" battle have moved outdoors.

City parks, public beaches, college campuses and other outdoor venues across the country are putting up signs telling smokers they can't light up. Outdoor smoking bans have nearly doubled in the last five years, with the tally now at nearly 2,600 and more are in the works.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: antitobaccoscam; didiots; pufflist; scam; smokingiscool; zoning
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I know there's a lot of non-smokers out there but this is getting ridiculous. We already have "free speech" zones being marked off where you are "allowed" to speak your mind. Will they wall these areas off? Will they wall off areas where innocent chirrun' won't see evil smokers and install scrubbers to clean the air? I'm a polite smoker and so is the boss. Give us a break. Outside is.............well, outside for cryin' out loud.
1 posted on 08/08/2013 7:23:52 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

They legalize marijuana and then tell smokers they cannot smoke....


2 posted on 08/08/2013 7:25:55 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: rktman

Just go ahead and ban the goddam things. Ban them. Make them illegal. Make it illegal to collect taxes on an illegal product.

So when all you smoke Nazis out there figure out there’s a buttload of tax income mixing, who don’t you just pony up to the bar and order up another round of “free-air” taxes and pay them yourself.


3 posted on 08/08/2013 7:26:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: rktman

I think the smoking issue was a way to test methods of controlling.


4 posted on 08/08/2013 7:29:08 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Gaffer

Wait. Or you talking about cigarettes here? Or marijuana?

Both are dangerous, unhealthy products that libs want to keep legal so they can can tax the bejeebers out of it.

With those higher taxes comes bigger gubmints.

I’m glad I’m not a liberaltarian. I would be OK if BOTH of these substances were illegal.


5 posted on 08/08/2013 7:33:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: rktman

Nudge. Push. Shove. Shoot.


6 posted on 08/08/2013 7:36:34 AM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I would be OK if BOTH of these substances were illegal.

Hey, go full Bloomberg and ban sugared sodas, salt in restaurant food and red meat while you are at it.

That's a mighty slippery slope you're on.

7 posted on 08/08/2013 7:37:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Responsibility2nd

I was talking about cigarettes primarily. The government has gone to great great lengths to ‘educate’ the masses that they kill. Okay. Ban them then!

This horseshit campaign to incrementally minimize where they can be used is both common sense in some cases coupled with just a nasty liberal smoke-Nazi approach to other people doing something one of which some people do not approve.

I have been outside, down wind in strong wind smoking and some frigging smoke Nazi approaches who couldn’t possibly have smelled anything and they give that “victim cough” routine.

Just ban the damned things and make up the difference in taxes lost.


8 posted on 08/08/2013 7:41:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

While I agree with your basic comment, I would add that while you should be free to smoke, as long as I don’t have to inhale it, but, and here is the important part, NONE of my tax dollars and none of CommieCare should be allowed to pay for the damage done to your body by your own deliberate actions.

It’s not that I hate smokers, I don’t. I really don’t like the smell but I really hate to pay for someones less than stellar life choices.

That same feeling can be applied to other poor life choices but the subject here is smoking.


9 posted on 08/08/2013 7:41:12 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Gaffer

I don’t smoke anymore but nothing irritates me more than this crap. All they end up doing is creating new taxes elsewhere that I can’t escape.


10 posted on 08/08/2013 7:43:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dirtboy

It is indeed slippery.

Or I could go in the other direction and unban child porn, prostitution, queer marriages, ALL drugs laws and other libertarian pet projects and still be up the creek.

Me? I’ll stay on the conservative side and vote against your using any substance that harms others.


11 posted on 08/08/2013 7:43:54 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: rktman

Now, they’ve also banned smoking in cars, homes and anywhere around children in some locations, including the outdoors. Just how did I survive my childhood again?

I’m not a smoke and I hate to be around it. Plus, smokers are sometimes their own worst ambassadors the way they toss butts everywhere but the anti-smokers also have a lot of nerve the way they insist on having their way - even to the point of lecturing people with e-cigs who don’t generate any carcinogens which was allegedly what this is all about.


12 posted on 08/08/2013 7:44:03 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: illiac

Just smoke non-filters and twist the ends up... maybe they will think it’s a joint and leave you alone.


13 posted on 08/08/2013 7:44:34 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Responsibility2nd
Me? I’ll stay on the conservative side and vote against your using any substance that harms others.

Conservative? Or authoritarian?

14 posted on 08/08/2013 7:45:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Wurlitzer

Do we get to add obesity and obesity related illness to the list of things we shouldn’t be forced to pay for? That every bit as self inflicted as smoking.


15 posted on 08/08/2013 7:45:46 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I would be OK if BOTH of these substances were illegal.

Sure, but why stop there? Let's ban all self-destructive or risky personal behaviors.

Things like rock climbing, canoeing, overeating, skateboarding, sky diving, drinking alcohol, tattooing, gambling, contact sports, mudding, bar hopping, staying up late, and reading anti-gov't literature.

For people's own good, of course.

16 posted on 08/08/2013 7:46:42 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dirtboy; Responsibility2nd

R2 is a nanny stater, you’re not going to shame him into rethinking his position with common sense.


17 posted on 08/08/2013 7:46:48 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: dirtboy

Conservative? Or authoritarian?

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Is that really how you view conservative ideals? Too bad. Here’s an ideal for you:

Liberal = Permissive.


18 posted on 08/08/2013 7:47:47 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Wurlitzer

Well said.


19 posted on 08/08/2013 7:49:54 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: OrangeHoof

Yup. If you look at my age group (66), when we were kids our folks (at least mine anyway) would have an occasional party and you could barely see across the room at times. So, if the second hand smoke theory were to hold water, wouldn’t folks of my generation have a HUGE problem by now? Still waiting for a peer reviewed set of studies rather than suppositions on 2nd hand smoke.

P.S. If you ask me, I’ll put it out or move away from you.


20 posted on 08/08/2013 7:50:08 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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