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Christian Magicians Rise to Defend Themselves as Not Involved With the Occult
Christian Post ^ | July 16, 2013 | Alex Murashko

Posted on 07/23/2013 6:33:28 AM PDT by Kip Russell

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So this guy thinks that people can actually levitate things magically?

Words fail me.

1 posted on 07/23/2013 6:33:28 AM PDT by Kip Russell
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Prestidigitation and illusions are not occult in themselves.
2 posted on 07/23/2013 6:35:36 AM PDT by wideawake
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Magical Thinking is NOT limited to Liberals. . .


3 posted on 07/23/2013 6:36:10 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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These nitwits are confusing illusionists with magicians.

One of the great illusionists - Houdini - campaigned constantly against psychics, mindreaders, and other such fraudulent foolishness.

There are real magicians out there, but they don't generally publicize their activities. Those guys, it is a good idea to avoid.

4 posted on 07/23/2013 6:38:00 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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Occasionally you meet someone that has an IQ so low they need to be watered daily.


5 posted on 07/23/2013 6:39:01 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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The author:
6 posted on 07/23/2013 6:39:17 AM PDT by EEGator
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They will be out with the pitch forks and torches demanding that the witches be burned at the stake.


7 posted on 07/23/2013 6:39:37 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: EEGator

Sorry, Dan Delzell, not the writer of this piece.


8 posted on 07/23/2013 6:41:01 AM PDT by EEGator
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I realize it’s on a different level than the article, but yesterday I walked through downtown Salem,Ma. also known as the Witch City. Literally every other store is selling magic, witchcraft, or the occult. It’s a spooky place. Mentioning Christ there would be garlic to a vampire.


9 posted on 07/23/2013 6:44:18 AM PDT by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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Interesting article! Many American Christians are of the same mentality..believing that illusionists contact evil spirits. I know a woman who laid out a huge deposit to have one of the famous illusionists come to our town as a fundraiser. She not only lost her deposit, but had to pay him out of pocket as well, when people failed to show up for the show.

His show consisted of teaching people how the magicians tried to overtrump Moses when Moses was confronting the Pharaoh.

People are more fearful and superstitious than they let on. It’s sad to see minds so closed that they willfully remain..blind.


10 posted on 07/23/2013 6:50:05 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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“Occasionally you meet someone that has an IQ so low they need to be watered daily.”

I’ve never met Nancy Pelosi, and would hurl in her face should I ever have the opportunity.


11 posted on 07/23/2013 6:59:41 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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I wonder if this guy, when seeing Penn & Teller demonstrate how a trick is done, believes it’s some type of do-it-yourself lesson in the occult?


12 posted on 07/23/2013 7:04:36 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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They should stop calling themselves Magicians and start calling themselves Illusionists.


13 posted on 07/23/2013 7:07:02 AM PDT by Borges
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The occult is dangerous so I share that general concern. But I suspect these men mean well and I don’t believe these particular guys are involved with occultic practices, so that argument seems silly. However, I find it hard to take “Christian magicians” all that seriously. They are part of the pragmatic ethic that has taken hold in the modern circus church world. Disciples are made through His word, through the foolishness of preaching, not through magic, juggling, motorcycle riding, rodeo, comedy, feats of strength and all the other worldly things people purport to do for Jesus. None of those activities point a sinner to Christ. If people got back into the Bible and learned once and for all how God saves sinners a lot of silliness would stop.

“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” (Romans 1:16)

“For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.” (1 Cor. 1:21)

“How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?” (Romans 10:14)


14 posted on 07/23/2013 7:08:17 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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I see nothing occult about having one of these:

Oh, you said "Christian Magician"


15 posted on 07/23/2013 7:09:34 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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The occult is dangerous so I share that general concern.

Nothing promotes the occult more than the medieval idiocy that the occult actually "works" in any way, shape, or form.

16 posted on 07/23/2013 7:22:31 AM PDT by Strategerist
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A lot of FReepers too, sad to say.
17 posted on 07/23/2013 7:28:47 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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Why don’t these soothsayers just conjure up their own money rather than requiring it from their audiences?


18 posted on 07/23/2013 7:30:45 AM PDT by onedoug
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True, and I usually don’t post anything on threads that involve this type of discussion, but sometimes I just can’t be quiet.


19 posted on 07/23/2013 7:31:26 AM PDT by EEGator
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I’m not sure what you are getting at, so I will expand my comment a bit. The word occult isn’t found in the Bible as far as I know, but there are specific prohibitions regarding “sorcery” and “divination.” Anything connected with those things should be avoided by Christians.

Lev. 19:26, “You shall not eat anything with the blood, nor practice divination or soothsaying.”

Deut. 18:10, “There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,”

2 Kings 17:17, Then they made their sons and their daughters pass through the fire, and practiced divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking Him.”

2 Kings 21:6, “And he made his son pass through the fire, practiced witchcraft and used divination, and dealt with mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the Lord provoking Him to anger.”

2 Chron. 33:6, “And he made his sons pass through the fire in the valley of Ben-hinnom; and he practiced witchcraft, used divination, practiced sorcery, and dealt with mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking Him to anger.”

Gal. 5:17-21, “For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. 19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you just as I have forewarned you that those who practice such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”

Rev. 9:21, “and they did not repent of their murders nor of their sorceries nor of their immorality nor of their thefts.”


20 posted on 07/23/2013 7:32:19 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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