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I live like a disabled person even though I'm physically healthy and now want a surgeon to cut my
Mail Online ^ | 17 July 2013 | Ulla Kloster

Posted on 07/17/2013 9:22:58 AM PDT by Irenic

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To: Morgana

right!


61 posted on 07/17/2013 1:25:35 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Irenic

Rare condition, my foot. She needed mental help years ago. She saw how her aunt was treated and wanted that special “help”. Her parents should have nipped that in the bud when she first started this as a child. Any dr who would do this should have his/her license taken away. If she ever finds someone, she would probably sue him after a few years.


62 posted on 07/17/2013 2:01:38 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Morgana
A doctor is willing to help her become disabled, but it costs £16,000

First do no WHAT??? Hippocrates must be shaking his head at this mutt

63 posted on 07/17/2013 2:55:17 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Irenic
Why is this story reacted to properly but stories of the people (even children) getting sex reassignment operations, causes many people to cheer and support the 'brave' decision of that person?

Boy, excellent post and excellent point. When sex is involved, though, MUSTN'T JUDGE!

64 posted on 07/17/2013 3:17:36 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The imposition of a duty on the importation of a commodity burdens the consumers. --Ludwig Von Mises)
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To: Irenic

Stupid idiot. My brother broke his neck skiing when he was a Paratrooper. He was stationed at Fort Richardson, Alaska. I’m not sure what unit he was in, but they were called “the Jumping Jews” because the unit patch has the Star of David. He became a quadriplegic at the age of 21. He is completely paralyzed from the chest down. He only has the use of a few fingers. He has to wear a bag around his leg and an attachment on his manhood because he can’t feel when he has to go. He can’t make love or have kids. He’s in his 40’s now and would give anything not to be paralyzed. This woman infuriates me!


65 posted on 07/17/2013 4:17:28 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: HenpeckedCon

It is a shame no one has figured out how to do spine transplants. I would have no problem with this woman being a donor.


66 posted on 07/17/2013 4:34:16 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I wonder why they bother to treat anorexia, wouldn’t that mean that person feels a need to look emaciated? Why do they treat ‘cutters’, shouldn’t they be allowed to cut because it eases their emotional pain?

How do doctors determine which psychiatric disorders to enable, allow, or cater to, and which ones they work to stop? I’m starting to wonder about the whole field of psychiatry. /baffle


67 posted on 07/17/2013 4:41:12 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

bam. Good point.


68 posted on 07/17/2013 4:43:24 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I agree FRiend.


69 posted on 07/17/2013 4:49:12 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: Irenic

Except in those cases there are drugs that can ease symptoms, and they are not utterly incapacitated by their mental illness.

Objectively, looking at people with amputation fixation, what other psychiatric problem is so intense that it incapacitates, but as soon as it is resolved they go back to a normal frame of mind?

Only one comes to mind: pernicious anemia, the inability to absorb vitamin B-12. Until they discovered what the problem was, and developed a liquid B-12 injection, such people were strapped to gurneys, totally incoherent, screaming and straining until they died. But as soon as they were injected, you could see their muscles relax as soon as the B-12 arrived at the cellular level. As soon as it hit their brain, they were instantly coherent and wondering what they were doing strapped to a gurney.

My point is that amputation fixation is truly different from most other psychiatric problems. If you can’t treat it with drugs, and they spend all day curled up in a ball on the floor, unless drugged enough so they are unconscious, you have a problem.

What is more important? Having four limbs and being unable to live a normal life; or losing a limb and becoming a normal, healthy person again.


70 posted on 07/17/2013 5:21:21 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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Okay, what about serial killers, ones that become so obsessed with the need to kill, and nothing will relieve that fixation other than murder?

What about the ones who are obsessed with killing themselves? There are people who are so obsessed with suicide that they need to stay heavily medicated.

So is the line death? If the obsession is death related, then it is okay for them to live their lives in a medicated stupor?


71 posted on 07/21/2013 3:12:44 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

As far as killers go, they have crossed the line of “harm to themselves or others”, and it is truly an even proposition whether they should be incarcerated in a prison or a mental institution. In either case they are likely still functional, being able to eat, clean themselves, etc., so the big demand on them is to not be permitted to kill.

Potential suicides are a very different proposition, as there is a spectrum of motivations, some treatable and some not. Their symptoms are also not always obvious, as many suicides have seen a doctor within a month of killing themselves without raising concerns.

However, the amputations are odd cases, indeed. Nothing evident in the “hard wiring” of their brains, no neurochemical or hormonal fluctuations, but they just curl up in an unresponsive fetal position. Drugs do nothing.

After being that way for years, I can imagine the frustration of their doctors. And it’s compounded by many of them quickly normalizing after a limb is amputated. That makes no sense at all.


72 posted on 07/21/2013 5:09:38 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

You’re right and it’s driving me bonkers trying to understand this. I doesn’t make sense.

The other part of this is the way people respond negatively to a person wanting/needing to do this to arms and legs as opposed to people responding positively to someone wanting/needing to remove sexual organs.

I respond negatively to both and don’t understand any of it, I’m trying though.


73 posted on 07/21/2013 5:19:29 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Could this obsession be spiritual sickness as was suggested by another? Do animals suffer this? Do you know?


74 posted on 07/21/2013 5:47:57 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

You aren’t alone in the dilemma. Very good physicians and even an entire national medical college (like the AMA in the US) have agonized over this for years without reaching any conclusion other than “we don’t know, but do not amputate any more healthy limbs.”

But that decision condemns anyone else with this syndrome to a subhuman life in an insane asylum, unable to feed or bathe themselves, when they could be back at home with a loving family and leading a normal life, without a limb.

A spiritual problem? Possibly, but it sounds way out of the league of any spiritual healing I know of.


75 posted on 07/21/2013 6:10:12 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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