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Where Are All the Aliens?
universetoday.com ^ | June 20, 2013 | Fraser Cain on

Posted on 06/20/2013 5:24:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin

As far as we know, Earth is the only place in the Universe where life has arisen, let alone developed an intelligent civilization.

This baffling contradiction is known as the Fermi Paradox, first described in 1950 by the physicist Enrico Fermi.

Scientists have been trying to resolve this mystery for decades, listening for radio signals from other worlds. We’ve only sampled a fraction of the radio spectrum, and so far, we haven’t detected anything that could be a signal from an intelligent species.

How can we explain this?

(Excerpt) Read more at universetoday.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: drakeequation; fermiparadox; ntsa; phoneybaloney; seti
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Still peddling the bogus "Drake Equation."
1 posted on 06/20/2013 5:24:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

talking on their obamaphones.


2 posted on 06/20/2013 5:24:55 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: BenLurkin

We don’t want to find intelligent life. We need life we can eat.


3 posted on 06/20/2013 5:25:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BenLurkin; GraceG; Norm Lenhart; TADSLOS

Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sovereign.

Reaper? A label created by the Protheans to give voice to their destruction. In the end, what they chose to call us is irrelevant. We simply... are.

Organic life is nothing but a genetic mutation, an accident. Your lives are measured in years and decades. You wither and die. We are eternal, the pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything.

Confidence born of ignorance. The cycle cannot be broken. The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Organic civilizations rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory they are extinguished. The Protheans were not the first. They did not create the Citadel. They did not forge the mass relays. They mere found them - the legacy of my kind. Your civilization is based on the technology of the mass relays. Our technology. By using it, your civilization develops along the paths we desire.

We impose order on the chaos of organic life. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it. My kind transcends your very understanding.

We are each a nation - independent, free of all weakness. You cannot grasp the nature of our existence. We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure.

We are legion. The time of our return is coming. Our numbers will darken the sky of every world. You cannot escape your doom.


4 posted on 06/20/2013 5:27:05 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: BenLurkin

They are waiting for extraterrestrial amnesty. :-)


5 posted on 06/20/2013 5:28:20 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: schm0e

Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Montgomery County, MD, Oregon, Washington State and Colorado, for a starter.


6 posted on 06/20/2013 5:28:43 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: KC_Lion

The Votans are expected to arrive sometime this year.


7 posted on 06/20/2013 5:29:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BenLurkin
The universe is so incomprehensibly large that I have no doubt that there have been and are innumerable planets supporting life over billions of years, but each of those planets would millions of light years apart, and they would all exist at different points in time.

If the closest planet with life is a million light years away, it's just the same as if we were alone in the universe.

8 posted on 06/20/2013 5:29:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
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To: BenLurkin

El Paso


9 posted on 06/20/2013 5:30:28 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: cripplecreek; GraceG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxD-5z_xHBU


10 posted on 06/20/2013 5:32:25 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: BenLurkin

11,000,000 aliens in the United States, including at least one in our White House. Why would we want to find more - so McCain can invite them to our country at our expense?


11 posted on 06/20/2013 5:32:34 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: BenLurkin

12 posted on 06/20/2013 5:33:23 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: BenLurkin

They’re in sanctuary solar systems.


13 posted on 06/20/2013 5:34:06 PM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: BenLurkin

If they are more advanced than us, maybe they stopped using radios a long time ago. If they are less advanced, they don’t have radios yet. Or maybe the aliens communicate some other way.


14 posted on 06/20/2013 5:34:23 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: BenLurkin
Probabilities are high they never advanced past this stage in their evolution.


15 posted on 06/20/2013 5:34:51 PM PDT by Errant
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To: BenLurkin

Still appearing to two-toothed Mississippi and Louisana swamp drellers. If ETs are so smart what is their navagation so screwed?


16 posted on 06/20/2013 5:35:06 PM PDT by MisterArtery
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To: BenLurkin
Because;

In the beginning ...

God.

17 posted on 06/20/2013 5:35:10 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They’re sitting right next to you in the 5th Dimension


18 posted on 06/20/2013 5:35:23 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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Don’t you know that you are a shooting star ...

(our neighbors died.)


19 posted on 06/20/2013 5:36:09 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: BenLurkin

They don’t use radio spectrum. HD only.


20 posted on 06/20/2013 5:37:41 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Errant

21 posted on 06/20/2013 5:39:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
it's just the same as if we were alone in the universe.

most people cannot grasp the enormity of our galaxy let alone the universe. Mathematics is important here, if "tricky numbers" make sense, you're Polly not sitting out side on a cold night waiting for visitors to sneak down to make crop circles.

22 posted on 06/20/2013 5:40:54 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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Nano - Nano ...


23 posted on 06/20/2013 5:41:49 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

over the last 50 years there have been many proposed answers to the Fermi paradox; my favorite is that no one would ever make the trip between stars unless “its” civilization developed three things; money, banks, and compound interest


24 posted on 06/20/2013 5:43:47 PM PDT by tanstaafl44 (ghod does not take attendance)
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To: BenLurkin

If there were another civilized society in the universe, one has to question would they want to be found by us. Our history, of this planet, does not mimic civilization which is civilized.


25 posted on 06/20/2013 5:44:46 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: smokingfrog
We quit using analog television ~ digital emits far less energy.

Even our lighting is converting over to LED, and that will reduce visible frequencies even more. Eventually an advanced solar system wide civilization would build a roof over the whole place and even their central star would disappear.

A sufficiently active dyson sphere might glow in infrared but we'd think of it as a likely failed star!

Our local galaxy cluster has BILLIONS of what seem to be failed stars.

26 posted on 06/20/2013 5:45:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: no-to-illegals
If there are alien races — they are certain to be every bit as selfish, vindictive and dangerous as humans.
27 posted on 06/20/2013 5:46:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin
Where are all the Aliens?

Washington DC.


28 posted on 06/20/2013 5:47:42 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: BenLurkin

Sheriff Arpaio keeps on pointing one out, but others keep on insisting he’s a domestic humanoid.


29 posted on 06/20/2013 5:47:43 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: BenLurkin

maybe and maybe not ... is fun to speculate though, then again, one has to ask is Heaven a civilization?


30 posted on 06/20/2013 5:48:58 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: cripplecreek
The Votans are expected to arrive sometime this year.

That must be a different ship than the Illegal Votans, scheduled to arrive in Fall 2014.

31 posted on 06/20/2013 5:49:17 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: BenLurkin
As far as we know, Earth is the only place in the Universe where life has arisen, let alone developed an intelligent civilization.

We are probably not as intelligent as we would like to believe.

32 posted on 06/20/2013 5:50:05 PM PDT by WesternPacific (The herded sheep have finally arrived at the slaughter house.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Or maybe we are first.


33 posted on 06/20/2013 5:50:50 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Bernard Marx
You're thinking of illegal voters.
34 posted on 06/20/2013 5:50:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BenLurkin
"Pathetic earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void, without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe, anything at all, you would've hidden from it in terror."


35 posted on 06/20/2013 5:51:16 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: cripplecreek

Ah, your Earth languages are so tricky!


36 posted on 06/20/2013 5:52:25 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: BenLurkin

...Usually found in the Home Depot system as asteroid belts.


37 posted on 06/20/2013 5:53:29 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: BenLurkin

ONLY two possible answers (if aliens do exist):

1. They couldn’t overcome their bureaucracy and it keeps them at a low technological level- or even led to their extermination.

2. They see our beauracracy and, naturally, quarantine us until we overcome it.


38 posted on 06/20/2013 5:53:59 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Dutch Boy
It would be nice to assume we are first, yet for what mankind knows leaves mankind with not knowing. That assume word does get in the way. Too many variables.
39 posted on 06/20/2013 5:56:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: American in Israel

I never saw that picture of Madame Speaker... in the middle of one of her cosmetic procedures! Neat!


40 posted on 06/20/2013 5:57:12 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: MisterArtery
Still appearing to two-toothed Mississippi and Louisana swamp drellers. If ETs are so smart what is their navagation so screwed?

Don't understand it either. They should fit right in on either coast, since they're supposedly frail, skinny, and pale.


41 posted on 06/20/2013 5:57:38 PM PDT by Errant
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To: muawiyah

“A sufficiently active dyson sphere might glow in infrared but we’d think of it as a likely failed star!”

I read a sci-fi book that postulated that the reason red dwarfs are so common is that some actually much larger stars inside of dyson spheres. I suppose it would help with all the missing mass they talk about.

Freegards


42 posted on 06/20/2013 5:58:35 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The universe is so incomprehensibly large...

Carl Sagan wrote something in Cosmos that really blew my mind. He said there are roughly 10,000 stars visible on a clear night to the naked eye. A handful of sand holds roughly 10,000 grains. There are more stars in the universe than individual grains of sand on every beach and desert on the planet.

Yes, the universe is that big!

I have no doubt that uncountable other planets have life, even intelligent life. Many of them have probably mastered intergalactic space travel at sub-light speeds. They just don't know we're here. If they had telescopes that could detect made-made objects, geometric shapes and such, they wouldn't see them if they were more than 4,000 light years away. If they were looking for radio signals, that lowers it to about a mere 80 or so light years away.

43 posted on 06/20/2013 5:59:39 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Good points. Light speed communication is basically new to the people of our planet.


44 posted on 06/20/2013 6:03:50 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If the closest planet with life is a million light years away, it's just the same as if we were alone in the universe.

Spot on. Folks who ask where all the aliens are have no comprehension of the size of this universe.

To paraphrase Douglas Adams, they have about as as much understanding of space and time as a concussed bee.

45 posted on 06/20/2013 6:03:53 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tactical Awareness. Use your brain. Then bring the pain.)
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To: DannyTN

46 posted on 06/20/2013 6:03:59 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: BenLurkin

We have had the ability to communicate electronically for only a few years. We assume that intelligent civilizations will last forever—but what if they don’t? What if they flower and then decay for all kinds of reasons. They may destroy themselves. They may degenerate due to ennui (reverse evolution). Or, as Arthur C. Clarke suggested, they may evolve to a higher plane that has no desire to communicate with physical beings.

Take your pick. It could be that the life a an intelligent civilization is anywhere from 50 to 10000 years. Potentially, a very short window. I find this the most likely explanation.


47 posted on 06/20/2013 6:05:44 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: tanstaafl44

You left out golf.


48 posted on 06/20/2013 6:05:58 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: muawiyah
A sufficiently active dyson sphere might glow in infrared but we'd think of it as a likely failed star!

"I myself have dreamed up a structure intermediate between Dyson spheres and planets. Build a ring 93 million miles in radius - one Earth orbit - around the sun. If we have the mass of Jupiter to work with, and if we make it a thousand miles wide, we get a thickness of about a thousand feet for the base.

And it has advantages. The Ringworld will be much sturdier than a Dyson sphere. We can spin it on its axis for gravity. A rotation speed of 770 m/s will give us a gravity of one Earth normal. We wouldn't even need to roof it over. Place walls one thousand miles high at each edge, facing the sun. Very little air will leak over the edges.

Lord knows the thing is roomy enough. With three million times the surface area of the Earth, it will be some time before anyone complains of the crowding."

- - Larry Niven, "Ringworld"

49 posted on 06/20/2013 6:09:10 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tactical Awareness. Use your brain. Then bring the pain.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Your tagline ...
To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.

Thank You for the LOL.

50 posted on 06/20/2013 6:09:39 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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