Posted on 06/16/2013 11:38:32 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
I believe that is the compromise we make to live in a civilized world: we curb a little of our freedom to live in liberty.
I don't believe it is possible to sacrifice liberty for freedom.
The danger is from within. Certainly the external threat exists, but if we have to have an all-out war with Islam & level every mosque in the world, then we can do it.
Our constitutional Republic is gasping on life support, & Obama & other traitors intend to end it. Stopping these mechanisms for spying on us will help to stop HIM & those with the same goal.
He has always been a CFR weasel, but only admitted it to his constituents when he no longer represented the district in Wyoming.
We should be sick to the point of puking our guts out over those Republicrats we thought were Conservatives.
If the Tea Party isn’t going to take the lead in defeating this monstrous evil government then it’s got to be the OATH TAKERS!
OK. So we end the PRISM Program to limit what Obama could do with the phone and e-mail data.
Question: What evidence do we have that Obama has done anything with that data. He could. But has he?
More importantly consider the fact that you are giving up a major weapon that is in place primarly (IMHO) to help prevent a really massive attack on the U.S. That would be an attack with one or more smuggled in nuclear, biological or chemical weapons. Al Qaeda could have their hands on at least biological or chemical weapons right now. And given our (Obama's) help for the Al Qaeda forces in Syria the likelihood of that organization having them in the future increases every day.
We are talking deaths in the tens of thousands of Americans if they succeed. And there is no doubt about the goals of Al Qaeda and their associates. Killing Americans is their number one goal.
That's the tradeoff. Be careful what you ask for. Obama is wrong. The War on Terror is not over. It's just getting warmed up.
Simpson’s father was a Wyoming-born Senator and Governor of the state. I don’t know how Alan Simpson happened to be born in Denver. From what I can tell the family was living in Cody at the time. It’s not like he moved there as an adult just to run for office. Cheney’s family moved to Wyoming some time before he started high school from what I can find out online.
THE VICE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Thank you very much. Well, Les and Pete, I want to thank you all for the warm welcome today. I see a lot of old friends in the room. And it's good to be back at the Council on Foreign Relations. As Pete mentioned, I have been a member for a long time, and was actually Director for some period of time. I never mentioned that when I was campaigning for reelection back home in Wyoming -- (laughter)
This is accepting a surveillance state. Yes, we have a threat. But there are other ways to counter it besides let this country slide into a police state.
Perhaps the story is apocryphal, but you’ve no doubt heard how Black Jack Pershing stopped jihadi activity in the Philipines. We can do something similar - identify the top 10 religious icons in Islam & state we will destroy them if another jihadi event occurs. The next event, ten goes down. Another, we hit nine, etc. Mecca on top. Pass a bill with total approval in the House & Senate & signed by the president. Let them know we will not take it anymore and follow through. We will destroy Islam if they persist.
We have to stop fighting them on their terms and we have to stop giving up liberty for what we know is very incomplete security. Whether it was NSA’s fault or the FBI’s, it didn’t get done & we should never assume ourselves secure in any case.
I’m fatalistic about that nuke possibility. Everyone in San Francisco knows there will be another earthquake. They still live there.
Clinton's team knew at least 8 times where Bid Laden was and failed to kill him.
Did Karl Rove and Grover Norquist - who were working with the Muslim Brotherhood in 2000-2001 influence Bush officials to take their foot off the gas pedal in pursuing radical Muslims? (Norquist pushed Bush to support the dropping of so-called "secret evidence" used against Muslims - the top objective of CAIR).
"Data" means nothing when you have decision makers who are either incompetent (Clinton officials), corrupted by Wahhabists (Bush officials), or both (Obama).
Clinton's team knew at least 8 times where Bid Laden was and failed to kill him.
Did Karl Rove and Grover Norquist - who were working with the Muslim Brotherhood in 2000-2001 influence Bush officials to take their foot off the gas pedal in pursuing radical Muslims? (Norquist pushed Bush to support the dropping of so-called "secret evidence" used against Muslims - the top objective of CAIR).
"Data" means nothing when you have decision makers who are either incompetent (Clinton officials), corrupted by Wahhabists (Bush officials), or both (Obama).
Why do so many pols retire in honor and glory....and then they can't resist putting foot in mouth every chance they get....and poof!.....there goes that hard-earned legacy.
Leni
This garbage is how far the once Republican party of Reagan has dropped to the Rino Party of McCain and the fool from South Carolina and many, many, many others that play under the Republican banner. I don’t trust any of them. Neither party. Not one of them. NONE!
Getting ALL this INFO is only the BEGINNING.....just WATCH how it's USED AGAINST the RIGHT!!
bttt
cheney is being a tool for the fly-infested one,
i wonder why? no way the chicago thug machine would ever watch cheneys back, or run interference,
He defended the NSA Surveillance Program by saying he started it in 2004.Put another way:
Anyway since his uncalled for comments about Sara Palin he's dead to me now. It's too bad too, I used to really respect him. It just goes to show you, you have to be careful to whom you swear your allegiance.
I only began to realize that when Bush began to push hard late in his second term for illegal immigration amnesty. It opened my eyes.
I still think he's an honorable man, but I look back on my support for him through No Child Left Behind and the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and just shake my head at my stupidity.
A lot of GOP are Big Government Liberals......so many are quick to attack Snowden....and not Obama....the one who ordered the spying
Snowden or Obama.....
He’s always been a creep.
And let’s not forget that the director of the NSA in the Bush Adminstration, General Michael Hayden went much farther than Dick Cheney. General Hayden PRAISED the Obama administration’s handling of NSA surveillance.
Gen. Michael Hayden, former National Security Agency Director under George W. Bush, praised the Obama administration’s transparency regarding the NSA’s surveillance of phone records.
“The Obama administration was more transparent .. than we were in the Bush administration,” Hayden told CNN’s Jake Tapper on Wednesday. “They made this metadata collection activity available to all the members of Congress, not just all the members of the intelligence committees.
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