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Dang boating accident. Gee, I wonder if maybe that is why "they" want all private transfers to be required to pass through an FFL licensed dealer. Kind of like they are/were trying to do in NV with SB221. Even loaning a gun to someone to go hunting would have been required to have a BGC done. WHAT? Yup. Sandoval still saying he'll veto the bill. Time's runnin' out.
1 posted on 06/13/2013 8:33:08 AM PDT by rktman
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I’d start shooting anyone in a position of authority.

Game frickin’ on.


2 posted on 06/13/2013 8:35:39 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If youÂ’re happy and you know it clank your chains!)
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In such a scenario, I hope no public servant could return to their home at night safely.


3 posted on 06/13/2013 8:36:56 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If youÂ’re happy and you know it clank your chains!)
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What if the Supreme Court rules disarmament is constitutional?

Then their term of service, which is life, is over.

4 posted on 06/13/2013 8:37:19 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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When they kick in your front door
How you gonna come
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun...


5 posted on 06/13/2013 8:38:40 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Some people take there grammar way to seriously.)
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6 posted on 06/13/2013 8:40:18 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If youÂ’re happy and you know it clank your chains!)
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I do not consider it prudent to discuss individual responses to this hypothetical in a public forum. It is obvious where the Constitution stands on disarming law-abiding citizens. It is obvious what the oath many of us took to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same" means in the event of such an attempt by our country's domestic enemies. It is obvious what the appropriate response is.

Personally, I would write a strongly worded letter to the editor, if free speech is still permitted, and hope the editor would publish my letter if freedom of the press is still permitted. I would pray for our country's leaders to find their way back to following God's will that we be free, if the free exercise of religion is still permitted. There is so much I would do, much of it formerly protected by the Bill of Rights, if those actions are still permitted to a disarmed populace by our ruling class.

7 posted on 06/13/2013 8:40:38 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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just check all the other coutnries that outlawed guns to find your answer- soem were free-ish countries to start, now soem you can’t even carry a pocket knife without the proper paperwork to carry-

The peopel there too said “No way- not gonna happen on my watch- just let them try to confiscate’

Peopel in NY said “No way- not gonna happen on my watch- just let them try to confiscate’

Peopel in Connecticut said “No way- not gonna happen on my watch- just let them try to confiscate’

Peopel in Colorado said “No way- not gonna happen on my watch- just let them try to confiscate’

Lots of people saying “No way- not gonna happen on my watch- just let them try to confiscate’- and yet they fall in line and comply when hte law finally goes htrough

Right now they aren’t goign as far as actual complete confiscaqtion- buit they ARE makign it nearly impossible to comply with certain laws and outright banning many types of guins and clips- and yetthe peopel ALLOW it to happen-

What will happen when they outlaw ghuns? The peopel will comply just like all the other countries have, just like several states have when their govenrment violated their inalienable rights- You’ll see a lot of folks claim they won’t allow it- but many in NY said the same damn thing- they DID allow it by complying- Haven’t seen a single case yet where a homeowner resisted with violence like so many claiemd they would-


8 posted on 06/13/2013 8:40:51 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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If they came door to door, it would be a bloodbath. More likely they will stake out your home and wait until no one is at home and then just bust the door down and steal them. At that point you had better have a cached weapon and ammo and begin your one man patriot campaign.


12 posted on 06/13/2013 8:46:53 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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[[What if the Supreme Court rules disarmament is constitutional?]]

WhaT if the supreme court rules that a woman is legally able to murder a child? What if the supreme court rules that govenrment officials can’t mention God or display their support for a religion? what if the supreme court rules that the govnerment is alklowed to shove an UNCONSTUITUTIONAL law down your throats?

What will happpen? Nothing- pweopel will comply- there may be soem small groupd or pockets of resistance, but it will be quickly put down and the resistors will be made to look like terrorists, and there simpyl will not be a large enough nor effective enough organization to resist

The NRA has allowed one unconstitutional law after anotehr to go through- even signign onto many of the bills as a ‘compromise’ (more liek a capitulation)- and did nothign serious abotu stopping NY’s tyranical confiscation of guns, nor in Mass, nor in Connecticut except run a few ads, launch a couple of half-hearted lawsuits-

I’ts now bewyond lawsuit time- but the NRA won’t risk their salaries organizing their millions of members to resist- and they are really the only ones who could accom[plish such a massive neough effort to effect change- instead, they will once agfain capitualte/compromise and declare victory- little by little we’ve lost our second amendment rights- thanks to capitulations=- it is now illegal to even hold a gun in some cities and burroughs-, and opf course anyoen wantign a pistol has to jumop through nearly inmpossible hoops- Try gettign a permit in Chicago- not gonna happen-


14 posted on 06/13/2013 8:50:20 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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Like I said a couple of days ago “3 of THEM(your figger out just WHO “them” is) will equal ME” THEN AND ONLY THEN(after I am dead)then “they” can “have” my weapons. I know for a FACT WHERE I am going after death “Do “THEY””!?


15 posted on 06/13/2013 8:54:06 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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Would you surrender your guns?

No

Would your friends and neighbors turn you in?

In a heartbeat

Do enough Americans remain who are willing to risk their lives resisting disarmament?

No

Would the military support the government, or the people, or both?

Government

17 posted on 06/13/2013 8:57:44 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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If/when the above scenario occurs then the ‘Right to Life’ ceases to exist in the eyes of the State. By simple logic if one cannot defend one’s life by whatever means possible then the ‘right to life’ is meaningless. Especially given the fact that there is NO legal obligation in this country for the State to provide police protection for the individual citizen not in custody. Your ‘right to life’ is then reduced to a ‘privilege’. You could be ‘aborted’ by State whim.....


20 posted on 06/13/2013 9:09:24 AM PDT by yadent
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Of course I would surrender my guns; to quote two great men, “FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS” and “COME AND TAKE THEM”.


21 posted on 06/13/2013 9:09:41 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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I suspect the results would differ depending on where you live. In a city, they can seal up a neighborhood and go block-to-block with a fair expectation of success over a lot of time. In the burbs, less so. In the country, I don't think the manpower exists - it doesn't exist for simple police work or even mail delivery, after all, and so the disarmament would have to be performed by interlopers unfamiliar with the area. That is a classic way to get a lot of people killed and accomplish nothing.

I don't think forcible mass confiscation is how it is likely to go down. What has happened elsewhere is a gradual tightening of the law, registration of the guns, incremental confiscation of first one type, then another. Sales of guns and ammunition banned outright. Draconian penalties for disobedience, test cases that are show trials. Rinse and repeat. In time, yes, most of the innocent can be disarmed. Not the criminals, ever.

22 posted on 06/13/2013 9:13:55 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Guns? I have no guns. Seems a crazy pair of raccoons broke into the house while I was out on a whale-saving voyage, and they made off with grampa’s antique horse pistol. No guns here.


26 posted on 06/13/2013 9:29:45 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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I, along with millions of other vets, spent the first half of my adult life defending the abstract ideal of Freedom in many foreign lands and sometimes for foreign people. Many of us fought and even died in 3rd World crapholes for people who had no concept of "freedom".

If the Feral Gubbmint thinks I'm not willing to fight and die for my own freedom they are in for a very rude awakening. The Law of War will NOT apply.

27 posted on 06/13/2013 9:31:51 AM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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28 posted on 06/13/2013 9:35:29 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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History supplies many answers to such questions.

Look at the resistance in Europe to The German occupiers. Many just went along, a few didn’t.

Look at prohibition... Alcohol became even more available because it was looked upon as a desirable thing specifically because of its Illegality. Perhaps especially because it was constitutionally banned via an amendment. One of our most prominent political dynasty’s became rich specifically through providing Alcoholic beverages through bootlegging and the profits derived from that trade.

Let’s say that Guns are made illegal... I would expect the same thing would occur and perhaps more. The intended and unintended consequences of any such actions would be far reaching indeed. Personally I pray we never see this happen.

In any case, the pendulum of societal change swings. From one extreme to another. In some cases from Barbarism to Civilization and back. From others; from Freedom to slavery to Freedom again.

I’m musing here but... Perhaps this explains the fascination with zombies movies and civilization collapse stories, novels and movies. As we move closer and closer to a worldwide tyranny, (one way or another), the people want to see it torn down. Perhaps they see more individual freedom in chaos and barbarism than they do in highly structured societies where they feel like their freedom to express themselves is in a straitjacket. And be y freedom to express themselves I also include the desire to work, have a family and just be left alone to do so in peace.


31 posted on 06/13/2013 9:53:07 AM PDT by The Working Man
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Apparently some of us haven’t been paying attention to the news lately in regard to government eavesdropping . Just for everyone’s enlightenment Uncle Sam is monitoring this forum & as such you can bet the farm that bragging about violent response will be used by the members of this nations indigenous criminal class (the Congress)to install even more repressive government actions .

Discretion is the better part of getting ahead of the corrupt govt.class . So get digital encryption ,learn how to use it THEN USE IT !!!!

Use it for Aunt Nancey’s tuna casserole recipe , Knock knock jokes,limericks, rude jokes . Get active with the TEA party & encourage them to use computer encryption for planning & strategy sessions .

This will make it really hard for the rats to get a early warning & it will frustrate the government snoops.


34 posted on 06/13/2013 11:12:19 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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Hmmmm.

Do I die slowly from the cancer consuming me? Or, do I die real quick in a hail of Government gunfire?


36 posted on 06/13/2013 11:18:39 AM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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