[manc]

big deal , the bigger issue is how a Govt is taking all data and spying on us all and yet we have even on our side saying this man is a traitor while ignoring the spying

[Norm Lenhart]

Conservatism has a PDS wing that calls itself conservative too. As well as those all in for lesser evils. Some are good with trading children’s lives for votes via abortion and thing Gay is a conservative virtue. We have seen each and every one of these things on FR and elsewhere.

Most of conservatism in reality, isn’t. It’s libs and moderates wanting to be thought of as something they aren’t. God knows why.

[PA Engineer]

big deal , the bigger issue is how a Govt is taking all data and spying on us all and yet we have even on our side saying this man is a traitor while ignoring the spying

Yep, and I'm sure they will be showing up sooner or later on this thread. People need to go back to the FISA warrant. There is spin control going on in attempt to confuse foreign terrorist monitoring with a government domestic war on the American people.

[piytar]

For example lodi90 on this very thread...

[muawiyah]

he went to China to be with his Chicom masters ~ he knows who and what he is.

[Ditto]

I had a friend who worked as a very low-level computer tech for the 'No Such Agency' back in the early 60s. He didn't have access to any data or big time state secrets -- he was just a trade school grad who knew how to fix the old central main frame computers they had back then and from what I gather, they had lots of them.

But he told me that part of his 'contract' back then was he could not travel outside the United States without their permission. Even after he quit that job to move back home, he had a 5 year period where he was not allowed to travel outside the US unless he had their permission first.