Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

To: papertyger

[[No, criticizing a theory on the basis of a priori probability estimates, which is what ID folk, do is not science: a priori probability estimates are neither falsifiable nor verifiable.]]

Which is antoher fancy way of stating “Mathematicval odds against evoltuion are devestating, so We’ll just ignore them and ridicule thsoe who attempt to use them as beign unscientific- but hte problem is that it wasn’t the ‘ID Folks’ who did the improbability odds i nthe first place, it was the world’s leading scientists in several symposiums/conferences throughout hte years-

Demski’s mathematics clearly show that anyhting over 10 to the 1050’tth power is mathematically impossible, A single cell evolvign from chemicals is calculated at odds of 10 to the 4,478,296’th power- thsi is scientifically devestating to the idea of evoltuion, and so of course the only recourse left is to ridicule methematics as ‘not beign ‘REAL science’ and ridiculing htose who point ot such such scientific evidence as being ‘unscientific’

Even when hteir own scientists coem out with devestatigfn evidence against the hypothesis of macroevolution, they dismiss it- You can’t argue with folsk liek that


22 posted on 06/06/2013 9:53:55 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies ]


To: CottShop; papertyger
I note, papertyger, that CottShop quotes an a priori probability estimate used by ID advocates.

And no, asserting that something is not science is not pejorative (at least not unless you believe as turn of the 21st century atheist materialists do that science is the only valid means of uncovering truth) but descriptive. I am a hard-core Popperian in my view of science, and regard any unfalsifiable assertion as non-scientific. This is not to say there are not many, many truths which are not scientific.

I make my living as a mathematician, and the theorems of mathematics are not science: they cannot be falsified by any conceivable observation or experiment because fundamentally they are all tautologies. (What is wonderful about mathematics is that there are really non-obvious tautologies that when uncovered can end up being useful, though we mathematicians don't do mathematics because it's useful, but just the fun of finding them). Actually, relevant to this thread, I encourage everyone to read Eugene Wigner's essay "The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences" -- the fact that there is an uncanny correspondence between what mathematicians discover just chasing the beauty of abstraction and what is needed to describe the material world cannot be explained by the Darwinian paradigm (that is the point of (the atheist?!) Thomas Nagel's recently issued Mind and Cosmos, which I have not read, but which revives in more, and thus actually valid form, C.S. Lewis's critique of materialistic Darwinism) and points to the kinship between the human mind and the Ground-of-Being, which the Scriptures phrased, "Come let Us make Man in our image and likeness."

The knowledge of God attained through prayer by hesychasts is not science, but is more important knowledge than any science wins us about the material world.

I could go on with other non-scientific truths, but you get the idea.

48 posted on 06/08/2013 10:01:49 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson