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Arias Trial: Jury foreman says life or death decision unfair
East Valley Tribune ^ | 6:40 pm, Fri May 24, 2013

Posted on 05/24/2013 7:15:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin

In an interview Friday, jury foreman William Zervakos provided a glimpse into the private deliberations, describing four women and eight men who struggled with the question: How heinous of a killing deserves a similar fate?

"The system we think is flawed in that sense because this was not a case of a Jeffrey Dahmer or Charles Manson," Zervakos told The Associated Press.

"It was a brutal no-win situation. ... I think that's kind of unfair," the 69-year-old added. "We're not lawyers. We can't interpret the law. We're mere mortals. And I will tell you I've never felt more mere as a mortal than I felt for the last five months."

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You heard (prosecutor Juan) Martinez say she was only 27. ... She's old enough that she should have known better," Zervakos said. "I didn't look at it that way. I'm looking at 27 years of an absolutely normal everyday young woman that was living a life that was perfectly normal


1 posted on 05/24/2013 7:15:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Then make a decision and give her life without parole. After all, every two years we can watch her getting her hair cut for Locks of Love.


2 posted on 05/24/2013 7:20:33 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: BenLurkin

I guess the foreman was against giving her the death penalty, otherwise why would he be going on like this?

They had to decide on the death penalty. How could that possibly be “unfair”?


3 posted on 05/24/2013 7:20:51 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: BenLurkin

I wonder what the result would have been if it had been a 27 year-old gangbanger that “capped” someone.


4 posted on 05/24/2013 7:21:11 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: BenLurkin

No one agonized over a life versus death decision for Travis Alexander.


5 posted on 05/24/2013 7:21:17 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Undicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: BenLurkin

A very stupid liberal mind. You take each case as they come. While I agree that Dahmer and Manson should have been executed, even before trial, their fate was subjected to the laws where they were tried (no death penalty?).

Dahmer got his. Manson, still mad as ever, is rotting in jail. At least Clinton didn’t give him a pardon. Now, as for Obama, he still might.

Cold blooded killers deserve to die. Why keep them around to be threats to jailers, prison medical staff, psychiatrists, visitors, and the public at large if they escape?

If the evidence is overwhelming that they committed a heinous, cold-blooded crime, ice them. Make them a footnote instead of a front page continuing story, a book, and then a movie.

Our children, family and friends, as well as the complete stranger, deserve to be protected from these animals.

Do we have a civilized, life respecting society for decent people, or do we serve as a hunting ground for feral animals and psychopaths?

We, as a society, have a right and a duty, to protect ourselves and others from killers, be they drug-addled street thugs, gangs, or upper economic class wackos.


6 posted on 05/24/2013 7:22:59 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: BenLurkin

It sounds like the “jury” was a bunch of drama queens having some kind of freaky and weird religious experience. Ohmmmm. Ohmmmm. Ohmmmmm.


7 posted on 05/24/2013 7:23:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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I think that's kind of unfair," the 69-year-old added. "We're not lawyers. We can't interpret the law. We're mere mortals

....you should have told that to the prosecutor BEFORE being selected moron

8 posted on 05/24/2013 7:24:33 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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Cry me a river Zervakos. Was the life or death decision by Jodi Arias in the murder of Travis Alexander unfair? Ask Travis’ relatives and you might get a clue.
9 posted on 05/24/2013 7:27:23 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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The next Jury will be seeing things this one was not allowed such as interviews etc. The jurors have not seen or heard things everyone else has. Trials and courts are no longer about the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Rather they are simply what egoistical lawyers and judges staging a scripted and censored story line which all three agree cane be told to the jurors. Trying to tell the whole truth in court even in the simplest of criminal cases can get you a contempt charge faster than a defense lawyer can say mistrial.

The foundations our judicial system was founding on has been corrupted in the past five decades by dramatic egotistical showboating legal so called professionals. Justice as a result left the buildings. Political Agenda took it's place. The ideal of "Victim Perp" now rules sad too say.

10 posted on 05/24/2013 7:35:22 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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Manson, still mad as ever, is rotting in jail. At least Clinton didn’t give him a pardon.

He couldn't. Manson was convicted of a state crime, which the President can't pardon.

In most states the governor can, though.

11 posted on 05/24/2013 7:36:57 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: cva66snipe

BTW trials like this one should have only taken a week at the most. The legal profession needs to find some ethics again and clean up it’s own profession.


12 posted on 05/24/2013 7:37:02 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Doogle

She knifed the dude a gazillion times, slit his throat and shot him ... giving her the death penalty would have been my first thought.


13 posted on 05/24/2013 7:37:06 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: BenLurkin

Adam Smith - “Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.”


14 posted on 05/24/2013 7:39:23 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: BenLurkin

Typical liberal mindset..knew this guy was a lib the moment he started flapping his gums


15 posted on 05/24/2013 7:41:20 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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Adam Smith - “Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.”

Exactly. And trials have been turned into a tool used by perps to inflict more harm on survivors of their crimes or victims families of the deceased. A case like that is going on now in Knoxville, Tennessee over a Double Rape/Torture/Murder case. The parents of their two murdered kids are having to relive trial after trial then retrials because of a corrupt judge. Trials that should last no more than a week or two are turned into months long dramas.

16 posted on 05/24/2013 7:46:48 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: BenLurkin
Jodi Arias asked jurors Tuesday to give her life in prison, saying she "lacked perspective" when she told a local reporter in an interview that she preferred execution to spending the rest of her days in jail.

How tough can it be to choose life when she REQUESTED it??

17 posted on 05/24/2013 7:49:59 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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To: BenLurkin

If she weighed 350 lumpy lbs. and had a pimply face and severe overbite, she would’ve gotten death. Especially if they saw her in the buff. But a budding porn star gets a second chance to beat the DP.


18 posted on 05/24/2013 7:50:10 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: BenLurkin

In all fairness, juries should only decide guilt or innocence, based on the facts of the case. Asking them to decide between life or death makes no sense, as it is a determination of law. This is why we have judges.


19 posted on 05/24/2013 7:53:02 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: BenLurkin

I had a feeling from the beginning that her statements about preferring NOT to spend her life in prison, and wanting death, since her whole clan were know for their “longevity”, and therefore she had maybe 60 years of prison to “look forward to”, was bogus, and just designed to make a jury do the opposite. THEN, pre-verdict she comes out with “I changed my mind, I want to live my life in prison, doing good things for others”. Though the jury presumably heard NONE of that , her entire testimony sort of encapsulated it: that’s the way to confuse and confound a jury, and that’s why to her chagrin, she wound up with a mistrial.
You could see the profoundly disappointed look on her face when the verdict was read.


20 posted on 05/24/2013 8:01:30 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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