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Wigan's shock FA Cup win keeps football romance alive
CNN ^ | 5/11/2013 | Gary Morley, CNN

Posted on 05/11/2013 6:39:34 PM PDT by dfwgator

In a sporting world where the big boys invariably grab all the glory, there is one competition where the romantic notion of the underdog toppling the giant sometimes becomes reality. Not often, but regularly enough to keep seemingly hopeless dreams alive. The English FA Cup is soccer's oldest knockout competition, and while it is often won by the greatest teams in the Premier League it is also the source of some of the greatest upset results.

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Here was the part I read that made my doubly happy that Wigan won.....

"A sometimes controversial figure -- a backer of the Conservative party, he was the only leading football figure to call for a minute's silence to honor the late former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher....." City's Muzzie owners are sad. I wasn't very familiar with Wigan until today, but after reading the story about Dave Whelan, I may become a fan.

1 posted on 05/11/2013 6:39:34 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Now Wigan has two games to keep itself alive. Looks like a straight math exercise, they’re not playing the other possibles heads up. Stan Collymore had a nice comment today about how his late dad was a Wigan supporter.


2 posted on 05/11/2013 6:45:47 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: dfwgator

A Conservative upset over the Muslim horde... hopefully a sign of things to come.


3 posted on 05/11/2013 6:46:15 PM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: dfwgator

Love how these smaller teams are shaking things up. Hull City, too! Used to live nearby. Love Hull.


4 posted on 05/11/2013 6:48:30 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Wigan seems to always be in this position and somehow manages to escape every year....it won’t be easy this time, though.

But that’s one of things I love about the EPL, the fight to avoid the drop.

I really wasn’t too excited about the match going in, but as it went on, and it looked like Wigan had a chance, I started really getting into it....City thoroughly deserved to be a man down, that tackle by Zabaleta should have been a straight red, if he didn’t already have a yellow. The goal was a beauty.


5 posted on 05/11/2013 6:51:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I was out with my youngest who is has been in West Ham’s Academy [says proudly] and he;s only 10 but when I heard about this I jumped like mad at the pitch.

BRILLAINT.

Mancini is off and to be honest , his decisions to not play Tevez or Sergio A sometimes in the league or take Tevez off was sheer madness.

Now as a Manc on the red side I’m chuffed to see city win nothing at all HA HA


6 posted on 05/11/2013 6:52:23 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: dfwgator

Wigan is fighting relegation from Barclays premier league, and beat No 2 in the BPL Man City in the cup final. It goes to show that any team can beat any team on any given weekend. Man City have a load of money to burn. I have a feeling there is about to be 2 clubs in Manchester looking for new managers. FTM


7 posted on 05/11/2013 6:52:41 PM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: dfwgator

Great news! Wish I had seen the game.


8 posted on 05/11/2013 6:53:51 PM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: dfwgator

The English league us without a doubt the best in the world.

La Liga only two clubs
Germany thought has a more average better crowd and has good football
Portugal ARF
Seria A , HA HA, thought Napoli is my Italian team you never know who wins because of corruption


9 posted on 05/11/2013 6:54:24 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: yank in the UK

we got Moyes from Everton, City on the other hand HA HA, THE CLUB FOR the other side of manc which provides comedy central


10 posted on 05/11/2013 6:55:42 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: AHerald

the final few minutes of Zabaletta getting sent off, and them scoring was great


11 posted on 05/11/2013 6:56:32 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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If Wigan goes down, there’s a good chance Martinez will move to Everton...I think he’s a good manager....especially with the limited resources that Wigan has.


12 posted on 05/11/2013 6:57:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: manc

I’d heard from from one of the lads at work that you had got Steve Bruce. Lol! Knew it couldn’t be true.


13 posted on 05/11/2013 7:00:24 PM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: manc

I wonder now if City will enter the Mourinho sweepstakes?


14 posted on 05/11/2013 7:02:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I don’t think Wigan is going down. I think they just might beat arsenal. I think QPR is will upset the Geordies, and I think Di Canio is going head hunting at Tottenham. I think Newcastle will go down this year. I hope so. FTM


15 posted on 05/11/2013 7:04:06 PM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: dfwgator

exactly what I heard ,


16 posted on 05/11/2013 7:04:21 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: yank in the UK

you can piss off with Bruce, top player but bloody ell as a coach and manager, no chance


17 posted on 05/11/2013 7:04:56 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: dfwgator

I was watching baseball and did not see this. I certainly wasn’t expecting this result.


18 posted on 05/11/2013 7:05:06 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: dfwgator

I think Mourinho will go back to Chelsea though I was hoping he would come to us but I think Moyes is cheaper and more of a yes man to the board.

Saying that we’ve done well with jocks Fergie and Busby though he has never won anything and no euro knowledge.

Reports are Fergie tipped him


19 posted on 05/11/2013 7:07:08 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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20 posted on 05/11/2013 7:07:50 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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I think Bruce was a Geordie plant at Sunderland, he was sent there to commit sabotage. Im loving Paulo! This guy has only been here 5 minutes, and already he has achieved Godhood status among the Makems.


21 posted on 05/11/2013 7:11:06 PM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Yup, but Arsenal is a must win. That’s a tall order.

Congrats to Wigan on the win today, though. What a dramatic finish!


22 posted on 05/11/2013 7:14:51 PM PDT by FatherFig1o155 (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil. -- Thomas Paine)
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To: manc

I’m really curious to see how Moyes and Rooney are going to manage, assuming Rooney stays.


23 posted on 05/11/2013 7:15:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: yank in the UK

agree, he;s done wonders, WTF are you still doing awake, I;m of to bed as I;m knackered.


24 posted on 05/11/2013 7:21:15 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: dfwgator

Heard that Rooney is off to PSG and to behonest I say farewell, you never know which player of Rooney turns up


25 posted on 05/11/2013 7:22:12 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: dfwgator

I had to work today so I can spend Mother’s Day with the wife. BUT, I stayed home to watch this first.

GREAT game. Wigins was deserving. I always pull for underdogs and have my heart broken regularly(NFL Cardinals ! ! ! ). This time was different. The Wigan fans were just great. That the substitute makes the winning goal in stoppage time was just absolutely appropriate.

Loved it. The fact that goals are rare makes one on edge the entire 90 minutes in a big match.

BTW, I have no respect for City’s way of simply buying a team, but their players showed surprising class after the whistle blew. Chapeau to them.

Oldplayer (Hence, my screen name)


26 posted on 05/11/2013 7:23:13 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: FatherFig1o155

can see the future pub quiz in years to come
which club got regulated but won the FA cup


27 posted on 05/11/2013 7:23:46 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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Yeah, I figured when Moyes was announced that he and Rooney would never work together.

Now maybe Chicharito will get some more playing time.


28 posted on 05/11/2013 7:24:02 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: manc

Well certainly won’t be the kind of fall from grace that Pompey experienced after their FA Cup win.


29 posted on 05/11/2013 7:24:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

love that player, I;m off to bed but I’ll talk tomorrow about this
great thread

good night all


30 posted on 05/11/2013 7:26:39 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: oldplayer

I think more than half of the residents of Wigan were at Wembley, they barely draw at their home games, it’s more of a Rugby town....and it’s like basically a small suburb of Manchester. It reminded me of a high school football playoff game in Texas where the whole town goes to the game in Dallas or wherever the game is played.


31 posted on 05/11/2013 7:27:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: manc
Heard that Rooney is off to PSG

Were he and Beckham together at United at any point? I hear Beckham will be back with them next year as well.

32 posted on 05/11/2013 7:30:13 PM PDT by dfwgator
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I’ve been a big Hernandez supporter for several years, he’s really smart and clever, but he’s an awful lot like Van Persie. If Rooney goes, they’ll need some muscle. I think Kagawa’ll get more starts, or some new guy, with Chicharito staying in the Solskjaer role, with Euro starts.


33 posted on 05/11/2013 8:09:51 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: dfwgator

Wigan was always more famous for it Rugby League club, and the soccer club was very weak.


34 posted on 05/11/2013 9:00:05 PM PDT by expat2
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To: manc

Great scenes at Old Trafford as Sir Alex makes his final entrance.


35 posted on 05/12/2013 7:57:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Beckham and I Ibravotich, yes I can’t spell the name have already stated in public they would love to play with Rooney at the club, and lets not forget Rooney played under Moyes and Moyes sold him off.

If we get decent money and try to get Lebonoski[sp] can’t spell that name either LOL then I’ll be happy.

I;d clear Young, Welbeck, only one goal this season , which is awful , dreadful for a forward even if he has played on the wing a few times, Anderson can go to.

Reduce the wage bill which Rooney going would and bring in just a couple of top players for next year.

Course tight ass glazers pull the money strings now sadly


36 posted on 05/12/2013 8:59:46 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ArmstedFragg; manc

And look who scores for United.

Bad day for Wigan, though....They need all six points now to avoid the drop.

Glad to see Goodison give Moyes a good send-off.

The game between Arsenal-Wigan is huge!!!! Arsenal in fifth, two points out of CL qualifying, because of Tottenham’s win. And Wigan needs to win to stay up.


37 posted on 05/12/2013 9:04:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Well that was certainly one of Fergie’s strengths that will be hard to replace, finding diamonds in the rough, that didn’t cost a mint.....Cantona was a perfect example.


38 posted on 05/12/2013 9:11:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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missed the Everton game but I’ll catch up with it during the week


39 posted on 05/12/2013 10:34:23 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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he had that never say die attitude, he knew he could get the best out of players and though some players have attitudes like we see in the NFL, NBA, OK not that bad Fergie still could deal with them and let them know Manchester united is bigger than any one player and one person.

Now us at united are behind Moyes and I’m sure Fergie will be helping him along behind the scenes much to the sadness to some other clubs.


40 posted on 05/12/2013 10:36:25 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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How ‘bout Texas’ own Clint Dempsey today, eh?


41 posted on 05/12/2013 10:41:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

How ‘bout that? Made my day!


42 posted on 05/12/2013 12:58:21 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: dfwgator

...and that skinny little dude’s goal was pretty good too. :-)


43 posted on 05/12/2013 1:02:25 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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Sorry no.

It was, but has been overhyped for some years.

The best is the Bundesliga, the football there is superb, and pound for pound it is by far the strongest. The fact that giant clubs like Werder Bremen were fighting relegation shows just how strong it is. And need I mention the CL final this Saturday is between two German clubs, both of whom DESTROYED the two biggest clubs in the world in the two semi-finals.

Frankly, the champions of the much derided Scottish league got as far as any English team in the Champions League.


44 posted on 05/21/2013 11:32:06 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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even the Germans I know feel the Premier league is better and open to more clubs winning it and fighting for Europe.


45 posted on 05/21/2013 12:18:59 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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I watch/follow both, and the EPL is not the best in the world. Its one of the best, and it was the best for years, but the German league is now the best, has been for the last 4-5 yrs, and to be blunt, other leagues such as the French league are fast catching up on the EPL. The Dutch ‘Eridivision’ is a damn good league as well. And Serie A is always good to watch and its major clubs are still European powers: Juventus, AC, Inter (2010 CL champs)....half the Serie A are some of the biggest clubs in the world: Roma, Lazio, Napoli......

And La Liga is NOT just two teams. Since when were Athletico Madrid (who slaughtered Chelsea in last year’s Euro Super Cup 4-1), Seville, Valencia small clubs?. All three are huge European clubs.

Look at Spanish success: Barca have been the best team in the world until this season, for the last 5 yrs. The 2012 Europa League finalists were both Spanish. The winner of which as I said trounced CL champs Chelsea and meant Spain had all three major European club trophies: CL, EL, Super Cup. Bilbao were 2012 finalists.

sorry, but take away Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and you arent left with much to write home about. Most of the EPL are frankly average teams. And most or at least half of the EPL arent big clubs.


46 posted on 05/21/2013 12:32:27 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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that is your opinion, the Germans and trust me I know many have all said the Premier league is much better, that is their opinion though from the Dutch, to the Germans, to the Aussies, to the Chinese all think the Premier league is the best league.

Now you watch the league as we all do but yu have a different opinion to everyone I know or meet including Germans who are fed up of just a couple of decent clubs always winning.

Your last paragraph shows why you don’t understand what what we are saying and what football is about, you stated Barca has done this and win that.
That;s the point, it’s always a two horse race in Spain

Italy LOL, the league is so corrupt, it’s not about which clubs are big though only a couple are today.

I’ve been in every country of those leagues watching football and the best thing about the league is who will win it and how they play.

Arsenal, Spurs, United, sorry but only the Johnny come lately call it man u, Chelsea, City, maybe even scouse if they ever get a decent manager

Germany,. Dortmund Bayern

Italy, corrupt, waste of time no wonder players want out.

Spain two horse race

Scotland, LOL

Dutch, two horse race usually

France, Yawn PSG is now a one horse race because of their money.

Portugal, LOL divers at the next Olympics

Like I’ve said Ive been to every big ground in Europe, all those countries watching football and you are the first one I know of who has said the Premier league is not the best but then again you have your opinion


47 posted on 05/21/2013 1:38:16 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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1—There are plenty of people like me in the UK, some even English.

2—My point was the strength of the Spanish league was and is more than Barca and Real. Which is why I mentioned how successful Valencia, Athletico Madrid (again I point out they walked all over what was supposed to be the best team in the best league), Seville and Bilbao have been in Europe.

Those four clubs since 2000 alone have won seven European trophies. And there have been three all-Spanish finals since 2000, none of which had Real or Barca.

You didnt understand what was a very simple point. That it ISNT a two horse race in Spain. Valencia and Seville especially have challenged the big two in La Liga. Valencia won two La Ligas in the early 2000’s and in fact were THE Spanish team to beat at the time.

3—’Italy LOL, the league is so corrupt, it’s not about which clubs are big though only a couple are today.’

And English football isnt?. As for only a few Italian clubs being big: Milan, Inter, Roma, Juve, Lazio, Napoli, Fiorentina. And you can add Sampdoria to that.

What does England have?. The big three, plus Liverpool and Spurs. Thats less big clubs than the list I just gave.

4—’sorry but only the Johnny come lately call it man u, ‘

P*ss off. I have been a football fan since 1975. I am no johnny come lately.

5—’Germany,. Dortmund Bayern’

Schalke, Bremen, Hamburg, Borussia, Leverkusen, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Dusseldorf. And didnt little Wolfsburg win the German league just two years ago?.

6-’Scotland, LOL’

Ha ha, sneer all you want. But the last time the champions of England came north, Celtic sent them back home with a defeat. And Celtic this season got as far as any English team did in the CL, and beat Barcelona and other major European teams like Spartak to do so. With a fraction of the money to spend.

And both Celtic and Rangers have been Euro finalists in the last ten years. Not bad for a pub league.

7—’Dutch, two horse race usually France, Yawn PSG is now a one horse race because of their money.’

As opposed to England which is what a two horse race as well. You lot bang on about how strong and open the EPL is, BUT who wins every year outside United or Chelsea?. Arsenal havent won it since 2004, Liverpool since 1991 and only City last year broke the domination and now they are imploding. The EPL is a two horse race. Just like the other leagues English fans like to sneer at.

As for Holland and France, you have Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV. And dont forget Twente won it two years ago. And France has Marseille and Lyon as well as PSG.

I think you need to learn a lot more about European football. Your views are the usual arrogant and lazy rubbish you only get from English football fans who think 1966 means the world quivers at your football.


48 posted on 05/21/2013 4:27:00 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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Amazing that Celtic won the European title in 1967....all with players who were born within 30 miles of Glasgow......those days are long gone.


49 posted on 05/21/2013 4:29:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: manc

I have been a fan since 1975. I have travelled all over Europe as well following the great game. So I know as much if not more about football than you.

I find it laughable that you are shocked to find someone who dosent think the EPL is the best. Newsflash: there’s many of us.

Lets be blunt: the EPL is the most overrated and overhyped league in the world. The football isnt frankly all that great, technically years behind Europe, and the league is full of thugs and prima donnas. And most of the league are not big clubs. Sorry but the Wigans, West Broms, Stokes etc make up most of the league and they arent big clubs at all.
Not even by British standards.


50 posted on 05/21/2013 4:30:58 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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