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To: ClearCase_guy
No, religion is very selective. If someone has an illness, and you pray for them and they are healed, that's "evidence of God." But if they die, is that evidence against God? No, of course not, they say. It's just that, well, "God works in mysterious ways." You only allow the circumstances that support your pre-existing belief.

In other words, if your pre-existing belief is that everything is God's will, then of course everything that happens is covered. So there is no new information.

16 posted on 04/14/2013 11:24:05 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

If my belief system were that, so long as I pray for someone, then that person will never, ever die .. then I guess you would have a point. There would be a lot of tremendously old people walking around. But there aren’t. The fact that, in the end, everyone does die, does not in any way provide “evidence against God”.


18 posted on 04/14/2013 11:32:50 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: A_perfect_lady; ClearCase_guy

And no “miracles” for amputees to grow back appendages.

Science is the best hope for limb regeneration. No amount of praying has seen anyone grow back an arm. Their god hates amputees, huh?


19 posted on 04/14/2013 11:39:36 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
amen, sister
28 posted on 04/14/2013 12:43:09 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: A_perfect_lady

Some very good friends of mine were driving across a CO mountain pass in winter that has a very dangerous stretch with lots of avalanches. Usually lose at least one car a year, and nobody has ever survived being swept off the road into the canyon.

They stopped and prayed before driving across the stretch. An avalanche hit and swept them off the road. They survived and eventually climbed out.

They believed their survival was a miracle provided by God in response to their prayers.

I pointed out that if they hadn’t stopped to pray, they would have been past the dangerous stretch before the avalanche hit.

My comment was not appreciated.


30 posted on 04/14/2013 1:18:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: A_perfect_lady

For me Einstein [ a real scientist ] trumps Darwin [ not really any advanced degrees in scientific thought nor original ideas ] every which way. See gravitational time dilation for another perspective regarding how old starlight may not actually be that old.

Or better yet read the book ‘Starlight and Time’ by Russell Humphreys.


41 posted on 04/25/2013 5:53:59 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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