This may be SOP in many homes. My aunt was found in her bed non responsive in Dec ‘11. The home called 911 and the EMTs pronounced her. No efforts were made by the floor nurse and my aunt did not have a DNR. I did some research and found this to be the protocols more often than not. In looking for a placement for my uncle I queried staff and was told they did not respond other than calling 911.
Is this the new “Death Panel”?
they;re not proper nurses per se and they;re only called that due to the elderly home making it look as such and making more money out of the elderly folks who for the most part are dumped off there.
Speaks volumes how they watched a woman die and then the daughter said she has no problem what these so called nurses did.
As for lawsuits then the home said that they have 24 hour medical services etc
How does this 911 operator know that she is not breathing enough??? Is she there??? She has a nurse on the other end of the phone. If she is breathing then she is breathing and that is enough until the oxygen arrives.
This 911 operator's insistence on CPR for a woman who was still breathing is a bit much. If she is breathing on her own you don't want to crack her ribs with CPR and complicate any recovery.
My late father had DNR on his medical records, but he refused to wear a bracelet stating as much.
I’ll make a guess here, that the company which owns this facility has been sued in the past over a similiar issue. The issue could be due to non-medical personnel performing procedures better left to experts, and the company was sued and found culpable.
My father’s AL residence, which cost nearly $5000.00 per month for a meals, care, cable service and single room plus bathroom, had a nurse on duty 24/7.
She later died at the hospital. Was she in cardiac arrest? If she was having trouble breathing, how about just administering oxygen instead of CPR?
Attack the nurse all you wish but the "Call 911 only" policy is due to the trial lawyers. If she had done any damage, and broken ribs have now been mentioned several times, she and the facility she works for would probably been sued by some bottom feeding lawyer.
So the facility has instituted the ""Call 911 only" policy and she, as an employee, is obligated to adhere to it.
This was the lead story on the NBC Nightly News tonight. Surprised me but it had more details than I’ve read online to this point. The woman’s daughter said she agreed with the policy and what was done by the facility. NBC brought in Nancy Snyderman, MD, for commentary on proper placement of seniors in facilities and that zealous CPR is not necessarily the correct choice for a patient in respiratory distress.
—Delivered two babies in the parking lot of a hospital because god forbid the doctors take a step out
—Sat on top of a woman doing CPR as they transported her from a nursing home to the CONNECTING hospital via tunnel because god forbid the nursing home or hospital do anything but call 911. The woman was at an awards ceremony 6 months later for fire/police because she insisted my husband get recognized for saving her life.
—Husband has had to push an ER doctor out of the way to intubate a patient himself before the Dr let the guy suffocate. I could go on... These things happen everyday. Husband is a FF in NY state.
And what if it were a visitor having a heart attack? Would they perform CPR then? And what if they mistook a visitor for a Resident and did nothing?