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1 posted on 02/25/2013 4:05:56 PM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen
Like most conspiracy theories, you simply need to apply the test of logic: what possible benefit was there to Israel in attacking an ally's vessel intentionally?

And: if there was a benefit, why would you let the vessel escape and abandon any chance of covering it up?

Under no rational model does the conspiracy theory survive.

What I find most interesting about those who accuse Israel of apartheid is not how little they know about Israel, but how little they know about apartheid.

2 posted on 02/25/2013 4:13:03 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Kid Shelleen

Clear weather, huuuge US flag, attack lasted for a long time, submarine joined the attack, life rafts machine-gunned.

It was another of LBJ’s scams, and Israel was a partner —success hinged on Liberty going down completely, and she didn’t.

We’ve seen similar teachery in Bengazi.

Scam success would have provided premise for massive US intervention in the Middle-East —it worked in the Gulf of Tonkin, right...?


3 posted on 02/25/2013 4:24:32 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Kid Shelleen

Lemme Guess:

Pollard is a huge hero, and he did NOTHING wrong, the USA is nasty for not giving him a medal.

Right?

And anyone who says otherwise is Hitler, or an Arab.

Right?


4 posted on 02/25/2013 4:26:40 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Kid Shelleen
Surviving Liberty crew members tell their side of the story:

USS Liberty Memorial.

8 posted on 02/25/2013 4:43:24 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

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12 posted on 02/25/2013 4:52:54 PM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
As I recall, there was a NYT story at the time which was accurate in all the particulars - I say that because I can still remember the story cut out and pinned to a cork board on the wall of one training room at NSA ... stamped Top Secret (xxxxx) CW.

FWIW

14 posted on 02/25/2013 5:13:20 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Sure. A spy ship with huge communications masts and a large American flag looks just like an Egyptian freighter full of horses.

Propagandists make a run at this on Free Republic every few years. I’m not sure why they keep seeking vindication for the illegal acts. It seems it would be smarter if they just let most folks forget the murder of American servicemen.


28 posted on 02/25/2013 6:28:25 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Kid Shelleen

Oh, great. Here come the neo-Nazi and Ayrab trolls.


30 posted on 02/25/2013 6:44:03 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The Liberty Incident
Gag Orders Debunked
http://www.thelibertyincident.com/gag-orders-debunked.html


32 posted on 02/25/2013 6:55:29 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Gotcher Debunked
http://www.thelibertyincident.com/gotcherdebunked.html


33 posted on 02/25/2013 6:56:36 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The Liberty Incident
Documents
[Debunking of neo-Nazi conspiracy tales.]
http://www.thelibertyincident.com/documents.html


34 posted on 02/25/2013 6:58:00 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Why You Shouldn’t Pay Attention to the Claims that Israel Attacked the USS Liberty Deliberately
http://hnn.us/articles/39936.html

[I don’t have time to reply to anti-American, anti-Israel REMFs, BTW. They should move back to their Axis countries.]


35 posted on 02/25/2013 7:02:44 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The USS Liberty Attack - Facts vs Fiction
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/the-uss-liberty-attack-—facts-vs-fiction/question-2700623/

[Another one to read while ignoring any fans of Hagel.]


36 posted on 02/25/2013 7:05:18 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Myths debunked on Israel’s 1967 attack on USS Liberty
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/viewpoints/articles/0715cristol0715.html?&wired&nclick_check=1


38 posted on 02/25/2013 7:07:54 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Investigations of the Liberty Tragedy
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/liberty2.html


39 posted on 02/25/2013 7:18:28 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Israeli Attack on USS Liberty
What happened to the USS Liberty during the Six Day War?
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1948to1967_uss_liberty.php
(great site worth reading more of—lots of facts on quite a few topics)


40 posted on 02/25/2013 7:26:03 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Not a historian by any means, but IMO it’s just a little too difficult to believe that this was - oops, sorreee! - an accident.


51 posted on 02/26/2013 3:27:25 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Kid Shelleen

Conspiracy mongers of obvious affiliation have been encouraged to appeal to emotional responses in the thread. Let’s see if the same latitude is allowed for us patriotic Americans and our real allies.

If this were an Arab child, it would be flashed around the world
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2992330/posts


86 posted on 02/28/2013 5:51:26 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kid Shelleen; gaijin; Pelham; Travis McGee

The amount of ignorance on this thread is just astounding

The ship has flying their parade flag

Very large flag

They strafed sailors in the water

A prolonged repeated bloody sailor killing on purpose plastered with USA insignia

That is indisputable

Why Israel never explained why and we never pushed it is telling but why

The ship was scrapped immediately

Hushed up and pushed down the memory hike

Why who knows

Hell yes it was deliberate but why

I have listened to hours of testimony from survivors

The crew were paid a pittance I think 2000 each to families

A travesty hushed up

No question they knew who they were attacking or at least what flag etc the ship was flying or displaying

If Israel is so omnipotent intelligence wise how did this “mistake” happen

The excuses here for Israel is usually end times gang that always does this

Hagee acolytes

They strafed men at slow speed and at deck level and torpedoed the ship more than once

Some missed

Listen to survivor accounts

Israel is not infalliable sorry to break it to folks here


93 posted on 05/10/2022 9:29:46 AM PDT by wardaddy (Have you ever seen more crazy assed women than on parade nowadays.....it's astounding ...and ugly.)
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