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To: wideawake; Zionist Conspirator

Refute anything I said. Prove anything I referred to was inaccurate.

Your NeoYankee vitriol towards Southerners is well known but I’d like to see you refute any fact I stated.

Zionist Conspirator is not known to me as a South hater

perhaps you could ping genuine South haters...plenty here...since you need help apparently...type in Lincoln in search...you can find plenty help

I am in favor of preserving a traditional socially conservative America.

Do you too see America as one long history of oppression against minorities of any stripe and therefore something to be dismantled and replaced with a new humanist anything goes culture overseen by socialism?

If so then maybe you are on the wrong forum drowning in your politically correctness as is your wont.

If believing our very existence is in danger and threatened by many including those aforementioned makes me a Lost Causer then so be it.

btw...what brings your sorry ass back now anyhow?

why aren’t you off anti freeping as is your custom ...talking tough putting down the forum as racist and bigoted while you hang with your homeys at anti freeper sites?

What is holding up America today is the white Christian vote...plain and simple.

We peel off a few minorities here and there but not enough to matter.

Turning white liberals is the real key to power but a tall order....but the largest voting effect for the effort.

Turn progressive Jews and it would help beyond just votes but not likely to happen.

I am not going to refuse to criticize how the majority of Jews vote or act ..or any other minority does either just because they are “protected”..that is so silly and a large reason our nation is so lost right now

You sure don’t hold back when you blow it out yer ass about Southerners now do you?

I am far more polite and even handed about progressive Jews than you are about Southerners when your petty dander is up.

As usual...a Northeastern socially liberal GOPe type blissfully unaware of your own bigotry as you rail about others

so typical of Yankees God love em


33 posted on 02/22/2013 12:07:21 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: wardaddy
That's a lot of words to use while saying nothing.

Feel free to document your claims about "anti freeper" sites, BTW.

40 posted on 02/22/2013 12:22:48 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wardaddy; wideawake
Thank you, wardaddy. I am not a "South-hater." In fact, I am an (Upper) Southerner. However, I am anti-Confederate because of my Hamiltonian rather than Jeffersonian interpretation of the Constitution and because my own ancestors were Southern Unionists. A lot of Southerners were Unionists. Unlike most Southern Republicans, who are Dixiecrat converts from around 1964, my family has been Republican since Lincoln.

The South was not "conservative." The conservative sector of American politics in the Early Federal Period were the Hamiltonian Federalists, and after them, the Whigs. The Jeffersonian/Jacksonian faction was subversive, socialist, pro-Jacobin, and probably penetrated. I would also like to point out that it was the Northern, Hamiltonian tradition that opposed Free Masonry--not the "conservative" ante-bellum South. If you believe in the Illuminati conspiracy theory, then you must acknowledge that it was old theocratic Puritan New England that represented the apex of early American conservatism.

I am not a "civilizationist" like "palaeconservatives" are; I am a a religious fundamentalist. I don't give a hang for anybody's "civilization." I am for a world governed by the Laws of the One True G-d. I do not believe in a "planet of peoples," in which each people subscribes to its own ("equally valid") religion and worldview. Only an atheist or agnostic like the late, unlamented Dr. Sam Francis could hold such a position. I make no distinction among non-Theistically-based moral/ethical systems. They are all wrong, whether they are responsible for the murder of hundreds of millions of people, or whether they harmless and haven't hurt a fly. Conservatism and Tradition are valid only in so far as they submit to and are in harmony with the Laws of the One True G-d. Otherwise "conservatism" and "tradition" are nothing but paganism, idolatry, and henotheism. I am adamantly opposed to secular, utilitarian conservatism of even the most "palaeo" variety. The whole point of our existence is to obey the True G-d. If your locus is on some other matter, then we do not share the same philosophy, however many positions we may coincidentally share in common.

In other words, I am Eric Hoffer's True Believer--much more so than any agnostic, utilitarian, racialist/civilizationist/henotheistic "palaeocon" could ever be.

Wideawake is from New Jersey (which until Wilson was one of the most conservative states in the Union), but he is not a liberal. He is a true Hamiltonian/Federalist/Whig conservative, in the best since of the term. He is also a Biblical inerrantist and has stood up to defend Southerners whenever their religious beliefs were under attack from evolutionists and higher critics--even when these came from his own religious tradition. He is certainly anti-Confederate, but he does not "hate the South." I hope you don't classify everyone who takes the side of the Union as a "South hater." At the very least, aren't the descendants of the Grand Army of the Republic as entitled to pride in their ancestors as the members of the SCV? The Union/Confederate divide represents the Hamiltonian/Jeffersonian divide that existed even among those who created our Constitution.

I love the South. I love the Republican party (from the moment of its birth). I reject the Confederacy and the subversive Jeffersonian ideology on which it was based.

I hope this clears things up.

49 posted on 02/22/2013 1:39:21 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: wardaddy

I just came back from Rockland County, New York, a place called Monsey which is overwhelmingly Jewish. None of them behave how you claim they do. My many Jewish friends are overwhelmingly Republican. You should try to meet more Jewish people.


70 posted on 02/23/2013 3:12:12 PM PST by Borges
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