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Iceland Dismantles Corrupt Gov’t—Arrests All Rothschild Bankers
Daily/Paul ^ | 22 Feb 2013 @ 10:21 | Sard

Posted on 02/22/2013 9:37:06 AM PST by Mortrey

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To: wideawake
We've talked about these matters before ZC and we share a general critique of man as homo oeconomicus - that it is better to be good in general (and perhaps terrible at business) than to be simply good at business.

However, I note a parallel phenomenon at work on these threads.

That is, the notion that economic success is probably immoral by nature and certainly morally inferior to political success.

The fact is that successful politicians and successful generals are as much directed by personal ambition as successful businessmen.

Many Europeans revere Napoleon as an almost semi-divine figure. Those same Europeans usually despise his contemporary Mayer Rothschild, who in my opinion was equally important historically and a much more benign figure.

If we set aside the most sinister motives for this discrepancy in relative appreciation, it comes down to this: Napoleon was successful at war and politics, while Rothschild was "only" successful at commerce.

When Napoleon indulges in naked self-interest under the guise of "the nation" he is a noble hero.

When Rothschild intelligently manages a strong return on capital for himself and his business partners, he is a crass opportunist.

This notion that people involved in voluntary commerce are morally inferior to people involved in coercive government action seems to suffuse the clouded minds of the left and the so-called "Old Right."

Thanks for thinking of me, Widey.

I am living proof of the utopianism of capitalism and by nature and inclination am not at all hostile to alternatives to that system. However, my loyalty to my Hamiltonian ancestors and the anti-Semitism of most Right anti-capitalists has led to develop a gag reflex whenever I encounter Right anti-capitalist posts.

"Rothschild" was merely a name I had heard until I was given a copy of Ned Touchstone's anti-Semitic The Councilor by someone locally. I noticed that it promoted the exact same conspiracy theory as the JBS (of which I was a member at that time) except for the blatant attacks on "Khazars." I eventually learned that the Birch worldview is merely anti-Semitism with the word "Jews" removed and that by being a member I was part of this outer rings of this abhorrent and evil movement. And my opposition to anti-Semitism was never "liberal." It was based on pure, unadulterated Biblical sentimentalism.

This past experience has led me to pay very little attention to conspiracy theory (while realizing that it is of course theoretically possible. Another reason is that most conspiracists believe in an evil counterpart to G-d A-mighty who has become "the prince of this world"--a belief I now reject as incompatible with the Truth. And how many believers in the "Luciferian" or "Satanic" conspiracy believe the real villain is HaShem, Yitbarakh Shemo?

81 posted on 02/25/2013 6:59:18 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

ZC, do you believe in the New Testament?


82 posted on 02/25/2013 7:19:48 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I don’t where you come from in the discussion/dispute as to Europeans banks and bankers in USA history but I will respond to your questions with writers privilege. 1) I don’t ignore the first years that the colonies and Founders put their Nation, the new USA, in the web of European banks/bankers. I believe this was in periods when commerce and means of commerce were being established and the Founders knew where the money was. I go to the next period of our history when POTUSA Jackson refused to allow further subjugation of USA financial interests i.e. banks and money. A next big event was the Wilson created European USA Federal Reserve and how European banking interests further entrenched their power into USA financial and business interests. 2) My father was a Russian Jew. However, my mother’s family was German-Russian and after my father’s death, before I was born, the heritage turned towards my mother’s family. We were always very close to the Jewish people in town and my mother often visited the Rabbi and his wife who gave us comfort in the years of the depression. I know little if anything about the Torah or HaShem. I don’t think either of these would influence my opinions about banks and bankers especially the influence European bankers had and have on the citizens of the USA.


83 posted on 02/25/2013 10:04:19 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2; Zionist Conspirator
I will tell you my views have been shaped by many years going back to before WWII. I served in that war overseas and my only sibling brother died fighting for the USA.

Two questions:

(1) So you are telling that you are 90 years old?

(2) Which country did you serve when you "served in that war overseas"?

84 posted on 02/27/2013 6:16:30 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Your queries get more ridiculous relative to our disagreement about bankers in particular the Rothchilds as we converse. This makes me suspicious of where you want our dialog to go. However, I will give honest replies in hoping you too can be more forthcoming. This year I am 87 years old and served in the US Army in the Pacific War Theater in the war against Japan and have medals to prove it. As an aside what is your service to the USA?


85 posted on 02/27/2013 8:43:41 AM PST by noinfringers2
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