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(PHOTO) Man Refuses to Perform Nazi Salute, 1936 - Hamburg, Germany
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Posted on 01/26/2013 6:50:10 PM PST by DogByte6RER

Man refuses to perform Nazi salute, 1936

August Landmesser (born May 24, 1910; missing and presumed dead Oct 17, 1944; declared dead in 1949) was a worker at the Blohm + Voss shipyard in Hamburg, Germany, best known for his appearance in a photograph refusing to perform the Nazi salute at the launch of the naval training vessel Horst Wessel on 13 June 1936.

August Landmesser was the only child of August Franz Landmesser and Wilhelmine Magdalene (née Schmidtpott). He joined the Nazi Party (NSDAP) in 1931 in hope of getting a job. When he became engaged to the Jewish woman Irma Eckler in 1935, he was expelled from the party. They registered to be married in Hamburg, but the Nuremberg Laws enacted a month later prevented it.

On October 29, 1935, their first daughter Ingrid was born. In 1937, they tried to flee to Denmark but Landmesser was arrested and it became known that Irma Eckler was pregnant and expecting another daughter.

Landmesser was charged and found guilty of "dishonoring the race" under Nazi racial laws in July 1937. Landmesser argued that neither he nor Eckler knew that she was fully Jewish, and he was acquitted on May 27, 1938 for lack of evidence, with the warning that a repeat offense would result in a multi-year prison sentence. Landmesser and Eckler publicly continued their relationship, and on July 15, 1938 he was arrested again and sentenced to two and a half years in the concentration camp Börgermoor.

Eckler was detained by the Gestapo and held at the prison Fuhlsbüttel, where she gave birth to a second daughter Irene. From there she was sent to the Oranienburg concentration camp, then the Lichtenburg concentration camp for women, and then the women's concentration camp at Ravensbrück. Their children were initially taken to the city orphanage. Ingrid was later allowed to live with her maternal grandmother; Irene went to the home of foster parents in 1941. After her grandmother's death in 1953, Ingrid was also placed with foster parents. A few letters came from Irma Eckler until January 1942. It is believed that she was brought to the so-called Bernburg Euthanasia Centre in February 1942, where she was among the 14,000 killed; she was pronounced dead in 1949, with a date of April 28, 1942.

Landmesser was discharged from prison on 19 January 1941. Landmesser worked as a foreman for the firm Püst, a haulage company. The company had a branch at the Heinkel-Werke (factory) in Warnemünde. In February 1944 he was drafted into a penal battalion, the 999th Fort Infantry Battalion. He was declared missing in action and presumably killed during fighting in Croatia on October 17, 1944. He was declared dead in 1949, with an effective date of August 1 that year. The marriage of August Landmesser and Irma Eckler was recognized retroactively by the Senate of Hamburg in the summer of 1951, and in the autumn of that year Ingrid assumed the surname Landmesser. Irene continued to use the surname Eckler.

- Wikipedia


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Chit/Chat; History; Miscellaneous; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: 1936; augustlandmesser; badass; brassballs; defiance; defiant; dissident; fascism; germany; manofconscience; nationalsocialism; nazi; worldwar2
August Landmesser ... a man with b@lls the size of grapefruit.
1 posted on 01/26/2013 6:50:20 PM PST by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

They clanked when he walked.


2 posted on 01/26/2013 7:00:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DogByte6RER

Yup.


3 posted on 01/26/2013 7:01:04 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: DogByte6RER
This one doesn't


4 posted on 01/26/2013 7:06:31 PM PST by llevrok (Unlike Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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To: llevrok
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5 posted on 01/26/2013 7:08:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DogByte6RER

A fair number of people seem to be looking at the camera out of the corner of their eye.


6 posted on 01/26/2013 7:10:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DogByte6RER

Today’s liberals would label him as an extremist.


7 posted on 01/26/2013 7:12:22 PM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: DogByte6RER

And soon dead, to no meaningful end.


8 posted on 01/26/2013 7:13:32 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: ctdonath2
And soon dead, to no meaningful end.

Not true. His children lived to know that it is possible to resist evil, and worth it, even if death ensues.

Like the fellow in front of the tank in Red China, his example lives on. Of course, others who lived can find themselves in the picture, paying tribute to evil.
9 posted on 01/26/2013 7:26:10 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Dr. Sivana
I agree. That's an inspirational photo that probably had wide ranging effects we'll never know of. Plus I suspect God rewarded him greatly.

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10 posted on 01/26/2013 7:29:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DogByte6RER

I can see a number of others...that don’t seem to be saluting...Hitler. Maybe not a deviant as August...but nevertheless not saluting.


11 posted on 01/26/2013 7:35:17 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: Osage Orange
Apparently I don't know how to spell..or compose a sentence.

Should have read...."Maybe not AS DEFIANT as August........"

12 posted on 01/26/2013 7:37:31 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Dietrich Bonhoeffer is another one of those who resisted despite torture and eventual death. I guarantee that he fared better than Hitler in the long run.


13 posted on 01/26/2013 7:37:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Hildegarde Braun nee Rodham, first from the left.


14 posted on 01/26/2013 7:38:18 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: ctdonath2

“And soon dead, to no meaningful end.”

It is 76 years later, his bones are now dust, and here YOU are reading all about the life and looking at the photo of a man whom you never knew. You evidently read something here that compelled you to share your thoughts with the world.

I think you just called your own comment meaningless. :-)


15 posted on 01/26/2013 7:44:55 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Osage Orange

Deviant just means deviating from the norm, usually thought of as sexually deviant though. The guy definitely deviated from the norm.


16 posted on 01/26/2013 8:35:02 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: ctdonath2

At least he didn’t go to his grave hating himself.


17 posted on 01/26/2013 8:35:43 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Immediately made me think of this movie, if anyone hasn't seen it.....get it!!


18 posted on 01/26/2013 8:44:12 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: cripplecreek
The bravest man, the finest man, I ever knew was our Roman Catholic chaplain in Germany, a local German priest, who spent the War in Dachau for his resistance to the Nazis. He was modest, self effacing, morally incorruptible, intellectually rigorous and despite his treatment, kind and noble spirited. I later found out this about the man know to us as "Father Andreas":

Priests from Dachau worked in the "Plantation" and in the enormous S.S. industrial complex immediately to the west of the camp. In February 1942, two groups of younger Polish priests and scholastics were chosen for work as carpenters' apprentices, but they had actually been chosen (at the express order of Heinrich Himmler) to be injected with pus to study gangrene or to have their body temperature lowered to 27 degrees Centigrade in order to study resuscitation of German fliers downed in the North Atlantic. The Rev. Andreas Reiser, a German, was crowned with barbed wire and a group of Jewish prisoners was forced to hail him as their king, and the Rev. Stanislaus Bednarski, a Pole, was hanged on a cross.

19 posted on 01/26/2013 8:56:24 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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To: cripplecreek
The bravest man, the finest man, I ever knew was our Roman Catholic chaplain in Germany, a local German priest, who spent the War in Dachau for his resistance to the Nazis. He was modest, self effacing, morally incorruptible, intellectually rigorous and despite his treatment, kind and noble spirited. I later found out this about the man know to us as "Father Andreas":

Priests from Dachau worked in the "Plantation" and in the enormous S.S. industrial complex immediately to the west of the camp. In February 1942, two groups of younger Polish priests and scholastics were chosen for work as carpenters' apprentices, but they had actually been chosen (at the express order of Heinrich Himmler) to be injected with pus to study gangrene or to have their body temperature lowered to 27 degrees Centigrade in order to study resuscitation of German fliers downed in the North Atlantic. The Rev. Andreas Reiser, a German, was crowned with barbed wire and a group of Jewish prisoners was forced to hail him as their king, and the Rev. Stanislaus Bednarski, a Pole, was hanged on a cross.

20 posted on 01/26/2013 8:56:27 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Somehow this reminded me of Daniel, Schadrach, Mesach, and Abendnego(sp?) refusing to bow.


21 posted on 01/26/2013 9:02:02 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I don't suggest not acting. I suggest not acting a mere gesture (or pointed lack thereof). “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
22 posted on 01/26/2013 9:06:49 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: DogByte6RER

I have that picture as my wallpaper for my computer.


23 posted on 01/26/2013 10:33:50 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: DogByte6RER

look no further for balls of steel

will you be ready? will you have the fortitude?

he was not the first. nor will he be the last. socialism leads to pure evil, every time.

24 posted on 01/26/2013 10:44:35 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ctdonath2

Great post right there.


25 posted on 01/26/2013 10:44:57 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: dfwgator

Sophie Scholl: The Final Days is available on Netflix streaming.


26 posted on 01/27/2013 2:06:53 AM PST by glock rocks (Pro Deo et Constitutione - Libertas aut Mors)
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To: Nita Nupress; ctdonath2
“And soon dead, to no meaningful end.”

It is 76 years later, his bones are now dust, and here YOU are reading all about the life and looking at the photo of a man whom you never knew.

Effing brilliant. Thanks.

27 posted on 01/27/2013 2:17:25 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
At least he didn’t go to his grave hating himself.

In contrast, all across Germany, allied soldiers found beer halls full of nazis and supporters who had committed suicide. They knew they were caught and that justice would be harsh.
28 posted on 01/27/2013 5:27:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Lazamataz

Indeed - a man whose death cemented obedience to Hitler. “Ya hear what happened to August? They f-ing killed him just because he didn’t salute! I don’t like this stuff any more than he did, but I dont wanna wonder whether I will return alive each day when I have to say good-bye to my family.”


29 posted on 01/27/2013 5:44:59 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: cripplecreek
There was that Goebbels thing, but the Nazis are not the ones who suffered with Selbsthass, or if they did, they turned it against others. The people who hated themselves were the anti-Nazis who did nothing and said nothing and thereby became complicit in the crimes of the Nazis.

Suicide rates (which were generally low among Germans), did spike after the War, but mostly among women who had been repeatedly gang raped by the Red Army, many of whom were pregnant and could not accept the idea of an abortion. That is what Germans really mean when they say that they did not understand what Hitler was doing.

30 posted on 01/27/2013 5:44:59 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: cripplecreek
There was that Goebbels thing, but the Nazis are not the ones who suffered with Selbsthass, or if they did, they turned it against others. The people who hated themselves were the anti-Nazis who did nothing and said nothing and thereby became complicit in the crimes of the Nazis.

Suicide rates (which were generally low among Germans), did spike after the War, but mostly among women who had been repeatedly gang raped by the Red Army, many of whom were pregnant and could not accept the idea of an abortion. That is what Germans really mean when they say that they did not understand what Hitler was doing.

31 posted on 01/27/2013 5:44:59 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: ctdonath2

Very provocative and interesting post. Thank you. If this were Facebook I would definitely “like” it ;)


32 posted on 01/27/2013 5:46:59 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: DogByte6RER

Joe Wilson should be remembered thusly. By ALL of us.


33 posted on 01/27/2013 5:59:35 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
There was definitely some serious guilt felt by those who did nothing.

In my opinion this is the single best documentary on the rise and fall of the 3rd Reich because its from the perspective of the German people themselves. Lots of commentary from people who did nothing because they didn't want to be noticed.

Third Reich - The Rise
34 posted on 01/27/2013 6:00:13 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
I watched it on the History Channel. I also grew up watching The Twentieth Century series on CBS, narrated by Walter Krankheit (Cronkite). Although it aired in the 50's and 60's, with almost half the Century left to go, it was mostly about Nazi Germany and the War. I also grew up in Queens, where our local deli man and his wife had numbers tattooed on their arms (maybe that's why tattoos never appealed to me) and every adult male between thirty and fifty had served in the War, and the ones who served in actual combat would gladly have foregone the entire experience. My own father who was a cavalryman in the New York National Guard on 12/7/41 and ended the War as a bandsman in Fort Devens, Massachusetts, would have gladly foregone the entire experience.
35 posted on 01/27/2013 6:13:55 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: cripplecreek
I watched it on the History Channel. I also grew up watching The Twentieth Century series on CBS, narrated by Walter Krankheit (Cronkite). Although it aired in the 50's and 60's, with almost half the Century left to go, it was mostly about Nazi Germany and the War. I also grew up in Queens, where our local deli man and his wife had numbers tattooed on their arms (maybe that's why tattoos never appealed to me) and every adult male between thirty and fifty had served in the War, and the ones who served in actual combat would gladly have foregone the entire experience. My own father who was a cavalryman in the New York National Guard on 12/7/41 and ended the War as a bandsman in Fort Devens, Massachusetts, would have gladly foregone the entire experience.
36 posted on 01/27/2013 6:13:55 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

My grandfather went into that fight as an agnostic but returned from Europe as a solid Christian.


37 posted on 01/27/2013 6:26:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ctdonath2

“And soon dead, to no meaningful end.”

His life has already served a more meaningingful end than your cowardly life ever could.


38 posted on 01/27/2013 6:54:59 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: ctdonath2
Indeed - a man whose death cemented obedience to Hitler. “Ya hear what happened to August? They f-ing killed him just because he didn’t salute! I don’t like this stuff any more than he did, but I dont wanna wonder whether I will return alive each day when I have to say good-bye to my family.”

Dude, what's up with the quavering, under the table, in the fetal position??!?

Not only would I follow in his footsteps, I might even take out (read: Murder with whatever implement was handy) a Nazi functionary or two.

I mean, you can't be THIS pussified, already, can you??!?

39 posted on 01/27/2013 7:14:21 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s your “I might” that I’m advocating, and the pussification that I’m condemning.

A whole lotta y’all are seriously missing the point.


40 posted on 01/27/2013 7:18:08 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: ctdonath2

Oh okay. MUCH better. Never ‘read’ you as a pussbunny. :)


41 posted on 01/27/2013 7:18:55 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: ctdonath2

I think maybe I understand how you view this, but correct me if I’m wrong. You see this incident from a practical approach, using the old adage of “Better to live and fight another day.” I would bet you are among the many who view the Alamo defenders as more foolhardy than brave. It’s a different way of seeing things, that’s all.

So which philosophical approach is better? Who’s to say? August Landmesser may very well have lived a long, full life had he resisted ‘under the radar’ instead of open defiance of a totalitarian regime. Conversely, he ALSO could have faded into obscurity despite his very public stand of refusing to salute Hitler in front of the camera’s lens.

As it turned out, here we are in 2013 sitting at keyboards discussing Landmesser’s lone defiance, applying his ordeal to modern times and our current totalitarian-wanna-be pResident. At least one person here was inspired enough by August’s action to put the guy on his desktop. (As will I.) I just hope Landmesser and other brave souls of history — or needless martyrs as you may see them — will be rewarded in eternity by knowing their impact.

Now, if I’m wrong about all this, then I’m going with Laz and his apt description of female body parts. I also don’t want you in my foxhole on the proverbial teoteawki day. ;-)


42 posted on 01/27/2013 8:39:26 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: cripplecreek

“Lots of commentary from people who did nothing because they didn’t want to be noticed.”

Ironic how in the end, the spotlight of the world was on the German people for their lack of action in Hitler’s rise and subsequent actions.

Good people doing nothing is the same as consent.


43 posted on 01/27/2013 9:23:05 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Nita Nupress

“Better to live and fight another day.”

Indeed.
As long as you do fight.


44 posted on 01/27/2013 9:32:52 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: Bshaw

Plenty of Germans didn’t buy the story about the Reichstag fire but nobody spoke up because they weren’t communists. In fact, questioning the story was enough to be labeled a communist sympathizer and rounded up in the resulting mass arrests.


45 posted on 01/27/2013 9:41:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ctdonath2

Well, do us all a favor... If you ever find yourself in a foxhole and decide it’s time to leave so you can live to fight another day, do your foxhole mate a favor: Let him know BEFORE you leave so he can make an informed decision.

There’s nothing worse than dying a needless, naive martyr’s death trying to defend a ghost in the night who turned out to be wiser than you were at the moment. :)


46 posted on 01/27/2013 10:16:04 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: glock rocks

The real star of the movie was Sophie’s interrogator. You almost felt sorry for him, because he was so trapped into believing that it was the Nazis that were responsible for him being something other than a “small town” pollce man. That is the danger of big government, when they give you what you want, there is always a price.


47 posted on 01/27/2013 10:50:40 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: cripplecreek

The time to fight was right before The Enabling Act was passed, once it did, it was the “point of no return”.....we are quickly coming to that “point of no return” in this country as well.


48 posted on 01/27/2013 10:53:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Graybeard58

Yeah...I know...but didn’t seem the right context.


49 posted on 01/27/2013 10:09:19 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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