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Mike Shanahan Plays RG3 Roulette with Griffin's Knee...And Loses Big
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Posted on 01/06/2013 7:39:18 PM PST by Perdogg

What the hell was Washington Redskins coach Mike Shanahan thinking on Sunday afternoon?

Coach Shanahan demonstrated how to play Russian Roulette with an organization’s future by opting not to take quarterback Robert Griffin III out of the game when it was apparent as early as the end of the first quarter that his star QB reaggravated a significant knee injury sustained weeks ago

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1 posted on 01/06/2013 7:39:31 PM PST by Perdogg
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2 posted on 01/06/2013 7:41:22 PM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: Perdogg

I watched that live on TV. Man, that knee bent the wrong way BIGTIME!

I still remember seeing Theismann’s leg breaking on live TV. It looked incredibly painful.

Rest up and get well RG3. I want to see you playing well next season....

Even tho I was rooting against the Wash. Foreskins tonight...


3 posted on 01/06/2013 7:42:10 PM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: Perdogg

yeah I bet this is the first time in history a football coach has done something like this. /s

10 yrs from now the NFL will be flag football


4 posted on 01/06/2013 7:42:54 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Perdogg

I’m going to miss the “Mack Truck” sound of RG3’s signals before the snap.

I hope he recovers fully and quickly.


5 posted on 01/06/2013 7:47:45 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: sauropod

I agree, it was pain full to watch, hope he recovers fully.


6 posted on 01/06/2013 7:48:16 PM PST by foundedonpurpose (It's time for a fundamental restoration, of our country's principles!)
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To: Perdogg

You don’t play for next season in the playoffs. No team does. Practically every player on the field has been beaten up during the season, so if you can walk and you are the starter, you play.


7 posted on 01/06/2013 7:49:59 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Perdogg

At least they didn’t put in Joe Webb.


8 posted on 01/06/2013 7:56:23 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Perdogg
Stupid. Fracking stupid. The opposite of what Washington Nationals did with Stephen Strasburg, which was to shut him before the playoffs. The Nationals did the right thing and look to the future while Redskins took a risk with their franchise quarterback.

Green Bay only had three starting quarterbacks since 1992. Guess how many started for the Redskins in that time period?

23.

9 posted on 01/06/2013 7:58:01 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Perdogg
Too bad Rex Grossman was inactive.
10 posted on 01/06/2013 8:06:24 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Green Bay only had three starting quarterbacks since 1992.”

If you’re using Favre as an example of someone who played a long time because the team took care of him and would never have let him play hurt, you might want to pick another example. There is no doubt he would have been numbed up and playing.

Wait a minute... Favre, Rodgers,... Flynn? Did he start a game (or a couple of games)?


11 posted on 01/06/2013 8:07:20 PM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: Perdogg

When you have a back-up the caliber of Cousins then you have options. As a captain, it’s got to be RGIII’s choice, but a good captain will listen to a good coaches advice.


12 posted on 01/06/2013 8:12:05 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: driftdiver
10 yrs from now the NFL will be flag football

It's not so much about coddling Griffin as it is about the fact that Griffin stopped being effective when his knee started failing. The Skins should have sat RG3 at half-time - they could have won if they'd done so. They spent a fairly high pick on Kirk Cousins and he proved effective in relief in a couple of game - what was the point of getting Cousins if Shanahan refused to use him when it was clear Griffin wasn't able to play?
13 posted on 01/06/2013 8:14:28 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Perdogg
What the hell was Washington Redskins coach Mike Shanahan thinking on Sunday afternoon?

Winning the game.

14 posted on 01/06/2013 8:18:05 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Gil4

Favre is Favre. He isn’t human. His consecutive game streak will never been broken. Yep, Flynn started a couple of games when Rodgers got hurt.


15 posted on 01/06/2013 8:19:14 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I concur. Griffin clearly lost effectiveness, and it was obvious to see.

Shanahan blew it.

16 posted on 01/06/2013 8:25:40 PM PST by onona (KCCO)
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To: TurboZamboni
> At least they didn’t put in Joe Webb.

I'm sorry. I'm trying to feel your pain. But...

The only way it could have been better is if it was Da Bears on the receiving end of that beating.

17 posted on 01/06/2013 8:29:18 PM PST by Flatus I. Maximus (Subvert. Obstruct. Overthrow. Obama.)
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To: Perdogg

It was clear that he should have been removed after the half. He would have never gone further in the playoffs anyway. The Seahawks have an excellent defense that will destroy a lame quarterback.


18 posted on 01/06/2013 8:33:14 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: sauropod

19 posted on 01/06/2013 8:33:14 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Perdogg

I have to say, watching RGIII’s knee move in ways mine never has made me feel very uncomfortable.


20 posted on 01/06/2013 8:46:09 PM PST by fso301
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To: Perdogg

Hope my Browns felt better about walking away from Kelly and his college vision of a mobile quarterback after what happened to a very talented young man today. In the NFL, quarterbacks just can’t take 5-7 solid hits from even a run of the mill 325 lb defensive lineman or a 255 lb linebacker. I know RG hurt himself without getting hit on that play but quick, can anyone name a running quarterback with longevity other than a Tarkenton or Douglas or Cunningham.


21 posted on 01/06/2013 8:46:17 PM PST by Cyman
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To: Vince Ferrer
You don’t play for next season in the playoffs.

Lot of good that line of thinking did for Washington. Now they can think about next season anyway because they just blew the playoffs for this year.

22 posted on 01/06/2013 8:50:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: sauropod

It was much like the Vikings decision with Christian Ponder.

The result was the same, they both lost this weekend, but Ponder should be fine next season. RGIII, may never be the same.


23 posted on 01/06/2013 8:58:17 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: MinorityRepublican

If you guys can ignore that it’s Letterman, this is my fave Frank Caliendo talking about Favre:

http://youtu.be/JKkpyRo4n0o?t=4m55s


24 posted on 01/06/2013 9:04:30 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Is that photo autographed by Joe? Wow.


25 posted on 01/06/2013 9:12:01 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
they just blew the playoffs for this year.

No, they were defeated by a superior opponent.

26 posted on 01/06/2013 9:16:36 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Cyman

EITHER A Brady, Manning, Schaub, Flacco, Rodgers or Matt Ryan (all pocket guys) will win the super bowl.


27 posted on 01/06/2013 9:17:33 PM PST by oust the louse (Obamacare has morphed into a tax on staying alive.)
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To: Perdogg
The lame knee hampered quarterback Robert Griffin III's ability to execute his excellent skills. His knee finally gave way when he went to pick up a poor snap that fell on the ground. The loose ball was recovered by the Seahawks who could not convert their good fortune to a touch down. Instead, they kicked a field goal, using the good field position. This put the final score to 24 - 14 which sealed the Redskin's fate.

There was talk of the condition of the grass field in FedEx Field. I think it played a part in exacerbating Griffin's lame knee condition.

If the game had been played in Seahawk's CenturyLink Field, we would have seen a less torn up grass. However, you would have also seen a higher score for the Seahawks, who benefit from the 12th man.

Go Seahawks!


28 posted on 01/06/2013 9:17:44 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: oust the louse

I’m going to bet on Denver early. Makes it all more interesting.


29 posted on 01/06/2013 9:28:36 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Perdogg

I live right outside DC - the fans who were at the game went ape shit when they were interviewed right after the game. The consensus was something like this:

“You don’t race a three-legged horse in the Kentucky Derby.”

They said it was plain for EVERYONE to see that [after he got injured in the 1st quarter] he couldn’t run with any authority side to side - much less make any kind of cuts on his runs.

They also said that even if he stayed in the pocket and not run the rest of the game, his right leg [his plant leg] was wobbling so much that he could not accurately throw. Thus, all the overthrows, throws behind the receivers, and leading too far in front of them ...


30 posted on 01/06/2013 10:08:36 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Perdogg

What do you expect from the Washington Racist Nicknames?

Heh.


31 posted on 01/06/2013 10:23:49 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: jonrick46

Go Seahawks, right into the NFC championship game where the Packers can properly whomp them and make up for the free win given by the replacement officials.


32 posted on 01/06/2013 10:27:24 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: MediaMole

You mean the game the Seahawks won after the refs attempted to give it to GB with a horrible PI call ... which is the only reason the game was close at the end anyways. Then in that same game they made a call which was later CONFIRMED BY THE LEAGUE as the correct call which all the Cheezeheads say cost them the game ... is THAT the free win you are referring to?


33 posted on 01/06/2013 10:49:50 PM PST by RainMan (I knew Newt should have been our candidate)
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To: MediaMole

Can Green Bay get past San Francisco this Saturday, January 12th? With the game in San Francisco, I predict not.


34 posted on 01/06/2013 11:08:06 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Perdogg
when it was apparent as early as the end of the first quarter that his star QB reaggravated a significant knee injury sustained weeks ago

This wasn't just poor coaching, but pure self-centeredness. Shanahan put his career above Griffin's health and, ironically, damaged both. This was one of the ugliest coaching decisions that I've ever witnessed.

35 posted on 01/06/2013 11:12:24 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Perdogg

Yeah, that s*cked. Oh well, at least we can root heartily against the Seahawks next week when they play Hubby’s team, the Falcons.

And my team, the Ravens, stay alive. Daughty’s G’ints and s-i-l’s Skins are now finished for this year.

But I bought the grandbaby a Ravens onesie, so he’s with me for now!


36 posted on 01/07/2013 12:59:52 AM PST by jocon307
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To: headstamp 2; TurboZamboni

“I’m going to miss the “Mack Truck” sound of RG3’s signals before the snap.”

Perfect description!


37 posted on 01/07/2013 1:06:37 AM PST by Yehuda
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To: Perdogg

All the folks sitting at the bar at my VFW agreed...pull RG3 and let Cousins at least finish the first half. Then they could re-evaluate. Otherwise it starts to look like Apache Management. In the Pentagon in the 70-80s we used to refer to that management style when talking about leaders and Action Officers...find a good horse and ride it until it drops...then go find another good horse.


38 posted on 01/07/2013 3:19:59 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Perdogg

RG3 addressed this issue in the post game press conference. He said that it was his decision to play and stay in the game. Shanihan took him out of the game after his knee buckled. RG said he would have got back in the game but Shanihan said no. Wash defense could not stop Lynch and that was the deciding factor.


39 posted on 01/07/2013 4:13:18 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: jonrick46
Go Seahawks!

How are you liking Bruuuuuuuuuuce? I'm a WVU Mountaineers fan and will be rooting for you guys this post season because of Bruce, and I'm a Steelers fan, go figure! :)

40 posted on 01/07/2013 4:30:44 AM PST by Conservative_Jedi (Give me Liberty or give me Death!!)
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To: Perdogg

As a competitor and your coach asks you if you can do it, you say sure, no matter how bad you might feel........


41 posted on 01/07/2013 4:57:53 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Agree. If Washington had won this game, I expect the next would have been their last. RG III is a great quarterback but it takes a whole team to win. It just isn’t in place at this time. Risking the next ten years for one win was a bad gamble and I hope RG III can fully recover in the off season.


42 posted on 01/07/2013 6:01:24 AM PST by Boomer One
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To: sauropod

RGIII should seek out the physician who repaired Adrian Peterson’s (MN Vikings) blown out knee...he recovered rapidly to have a career year this season.


43 posted on 01/07/2013 6:35:50 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: MediaMole

Ask the Manning brothers how they fared against the Falcons this season...Atlanta swept both the AFC West Division and the NFC East. The Georgia Dome is where opposing QB’s come to die...and the Falcons won’t be playing a one-legged QB.


44 posted on 01/07/2013 6:41:36 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Perdogg

Totally agree, Perdogg!
From the end of the first quarter when they were up by 14, I was screaming at the TV for Shanahan to take him OUT! It’s not like Cousins couldn’t have handled it and kept the roll going. RGIII was HURT and could NOT play his game and the doc and coach payed God with his knee.
By the 4th quarter, I said Shanahan WANTED to lose this game - plain and simple.
Crap coaching and should be fired for it...Cousins should try to be traded for a first string spot...but hope RGIII stays...a great kid!


45 posted on 01/07/2013 6:43:53 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Red Steel

That’s debatable.....


46 posted on 01/07/2013 6:46:38 AM PST by matginzac
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To: lacrew

I think I see Strahan’s autograph on there too.

That pic would be worth some moola.


47 posted on 01/07/2013 6:52:06 AM PST by toast
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To: Perdogg

Much as I dislike Shanahan I don’t agree with this criticism. Yeah it was apparent RGIII wasn’t at 100%, but it was by no means apparent he’d aggravated the injury. Like they said on Game Day, there’s a difference between hurt and injured, and while he clearly looked hurt he didn’t look injured. It’s the playoffs, that IS the future you nurse the player along for, if he thinks he can play you play him.


48 posted on 01/07/2013 7:14:47 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: Cyman

You can be a mobile QB and not take a lot of hits. Just look at the other sideline, Wilson is the same style if QB as RGII, he’s just not as fast and a lot smarter when it comes to protecting his body. McNabb was a running QB that had a long career, Elway too. It’s not about running, it’s about being smart at the end, knowing when to pop out of bounds, when to slide, how to get tackled.


49 posted on 01/07/2013 7:20:12 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: MediaMole

We saw what would have happened to Dallas had they managed to beat the Deadskins in the last game of the regular season. Yes Seattle would have beaten da Boys but they would have been there instead of Washington. Ironicaly, as a Cowboys fan, I was pulling for Washington. Got to pull for the NFC East. Now that they’re gone, The Packers get my vote. For the only other team to have beaten the Stealers in the SB, they have my support to go all the way to New Orleans. Sure hated to see RGIII play that way but it was Shannahan’s call. The loss is on his shoulders alone.


50 posted on 01/07/2013 7:24:50 AM PST by NCC-1701 (The LEFT's intolerance of the RIGHT is intolerable.)
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