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Alabama's hatred of Notre Dame runs long, deep
Yahoo Sports ^ | Jan 4, 2013 12:21 AM EST | Pat Forde

Posted on 01/05/2013 11:01:54 AM PST by Hoodat

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. – Jeremy Pike is a 37-year-old native and resident of Tuscaloosa, Ala. Like all proper fans of the Alabama Crimson Tide, he maintains an abiding hatred of Southeastern Conference rivals Auburn and Tennessee.

But there is a third member of his unholy fan trinity, and always has been.

"Oh, I hate Notre Dame," Pike said. "I never pull for them."

On Nov. 3, Pike and about 50 other Alabama fans were in Louisiana getting ready to watch the Tide play LSU – the most anticipated game of the year. But before the game, they were glued to the TV screaming for Pittsburgh to upset Notre Dame. All of them.

"Notre Dame, Auburn and Tennessee, I can't pull for them ever," Pike said. "I can't put them in order; it just depends on the year and what's at stake."

What's at stake next week is the national championship, and the opponent is the Fighting Irish. So for now, they are No. 1 on Pike's Enemies List.

He has a lot of company.

For two schools that haven't played each other in 25 years, and have met just six times in history, there is a very active contempt between the powerhouses. And for a whole host of reasons that extend far beyond this particular matchup, the hate seems to flow with particular fervor from South to North. . . .


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KEYWORDS: alabama; bcs; bowlgames; collegefootball; football; notredame; rolltide; sec
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There are still stop signs in Tuscaloosa that show 'NOTRE DAME' in white stenciled in under the word 'STOP'.
1 posted on 01/05/2013 11:02:02 AM PST by Hoodat
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To: Hoodat

The SEC will win the championship...again.


2 posted on 01/05/2013 11:13:17 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Hoodat

No reason to hate.

But Notre Dame does NOT belong in the “Championship”

It plays too easy a schedule.


3 posted on 01/05/2013 11:17:42 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Hoodat
SEC 2012 season Bowl record so far:


4 posted on 01/05/2013 11:18:23 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Hoodat
I think the word hate is used a little to often.

-Roll Tide-

5 posted on 01/05/2013 11:20:22 AM PST by blam
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To: Hoodat

After that game last night, I’m thinking that the “Championship” should be played between Oregon and Texas A&M.


6 posted on 01/05/2013 11:21:09 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin
"After that game last night, I’m thinking that the “Championship” should be played between Oregon and Texas A&M."

The seniors on the Alabama team already have TWO championship rings (2009/2011), this could be their third.

What can be said for the seniors at Oregon or A&M?

7 posted on 01/05/2013 11:32:30 AM PST by blam
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To: BenLurkin

Texas A&M lost 2 games in the SEC and didn’t play in the conference championship. Alabama and Oregon each had one loss, but UA gets the nod on strength of schedule. It’s a season long rating, not just who is currently playing best. (T-A&M)


8 posted on 01/05/2013 11:36:05 AM PST by EEGator
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To: blam

Alabama is going to crush Ntre Dame.


9 posted on 01/05/2013 11:36:43 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: blam
I'm sitting here rolling through Youtube videos, and came across what is in my opinion the greatest play ever - George Teague taking the ball away from Lamar Thomas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1umT1OAnAc0

10 posted on 01/05/2013 11:37:37 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: BenLurkin
It plays too easy a schedule.
A quick hop around the Internet and I found 3-4 sites (like this one ) listing ND's pre-season 2012 schedule anywhere from 1st to 8th hardest.
I don't think that's "too easy."
11 posted on 01/05/2013 11:42:31 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Hoodat
Notre Dame's new coach is making a big difference in their football teams performance. Provoing to some extene that great coaches turn out great teams.

The coming Alabama - Notre Dame game is today's equivalent to the Super Bowl game.

12 posted on 01/05/2013 11:59:07 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: Hoodat
Notre Dame is like the Yankees. If you don't hate them you're not a true sports fan.
13 posted on 01/05/2013 12:04:04 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: BenLurkin
That would have been a great game to see. A&M was very impressive.
14 posted on 01/05/2013 12:10:27 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: oh8eleven

“...listing ND’s pre-season 2012 schedule anywhere from 1st...”

My boys at Georgia Tech (6-7 going into the game) beat USC, Preseason - Week 2 #1) worse than Notre Dame did.

GT 21 - USC 7
ND 22 - USC 13

Preseason does not always mean much.


15 posted on 01/05/2013 12:12:50 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: Hoodat

Here’s an abbreviated video of Bama/Notre Dame 1973 Sugar Bowl in Tulane stadium.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v6UPz8d9sI


16 posted on 01/05/2013 12:29:53 PM PST by logitech (Who's here so vile, that will not love his country? If any speak, for him I have offended)
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To: Hoodat
I'd have more sympathy or support for ND if the sports media wouldn't write about them like they do. The Sports Media to ND are like the MSM is to Obama. I hope that Alabama destroys ND where there is not one iota of certainty that they were far too good of a team for ND to have been selected to play in the game. I'd like to see a score of somewhere in the range of 70-14.
17 posted on 01/05/2013 12:32:32 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: BwanaNdege
My boys at Georgia Tech (6-7 going into the game) beat USC, Preseason - Week 2 #1) worse than Notre Dame did.

That Trojan team that showed up in El Paso couldn't have beaten Whittier High School. Coach Lane "Unabomber" Kiffin and his boss, Athletic Director Benedict Alger Haden--a Trojan football hero turned Domer fan--have got to go.

18 posted on 01/05/2013 12:39:38 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Hoodat
"When you rank in the bottom five in the nation … in almost every quality-of-life category, and get hammered in the national media about how backward you are,..."

The state of Alabama didn't vote for Obama. "Backward" are the states that did.

19 posted on 01/05/2013 12:45:22 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Hoodat
I might root for Notre Dame--if they played Gaza Islamic, Patrice Lumumba, Havana or Harvard.
20 posted on 01/05/2013 12:48:38 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: BwanaNdege

Don’t forget those powerhouse programs at Navy, Purdue, Wake Forrest and Boston College

8^)


21 posted on 01/05/2013 1:34:20 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: logitech
I just watched the whole thing on ESPN Classic. It came down to a missed extra point. After the game, Parseghian made a point of giving respect to Alabama and their coach. I remember at the time as a kid how upset my grandfather in Birmingham was about the outcome.

In '86, I new something had to finally give, because Alabama had never beaten Notre Dame, and Lou Holtz had never beaten Alabama. Finally, BAMA got the win, but nothing will ever make up for '73 and '74. I think Alabama will win, but it won't be nearly as satisfying as beating Penn State in '79, Miami in '92, or Texas in 2010.

22 posted on 01/05/2013 1:39:59 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: BwanaNdege
I'm a Tech grad as well, although I was still born and raised a BAMA fan. My mother was old school and still and still to this day hates Georgia Tech (and Tennessee of course).

Anyway, it was sweet seeing the Jackets beat up on a bunch of California pretty boys. I'm still ecstatic that Chan Gailey is gone.

23 posted on 01/05/2013 1:43:38 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Hoodat

Notre Dame wins this game straight up.....and I would certainly take the ten points any day. ND just has too much team speed for the Tide....their defense is special.


24 posted on 01/05/2013 2:03:27 PM PST by levon
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To: BenLurkin

Oregon should definitely have been in the NC over Bama...Manziel and Texas A&M looked awefully good last night...should be fun to watch next year. I can remember before the season started, all my SEC homer friends said it would take A&M three to four seasons of recruiting “SEC talent” before they could play with the “big boys in the SEC.....LMAO. Of course these were the same SEC homers that told me last year that there was no way that “high school team” Boise State could come into the Georgia Dome and hang with UGA....LMAO.


25 posted on 01/05/2013 2:03:38 PM PST by levon
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To: Hoodat

>>Anyway, it was sweet seeing the Jackets beat up on a bunch of California pretty boys.

You can say that again.

I’m not much of an AL fan because of the way they treated Bill Curry. That said, I hope AL crushes ND.


26 posted on 01/05/2013 2:06:05 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: levon

The excitement over this game is simply amazing

Know a guy here that is taking Alabama and 17,started

to take him up

The tv ratings will be hugh and series


27 posted on 01/05/2013 2:19:40 PM PST by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Hoodat

The ‘92 game was the best, but a win against ND would still heal some old wounds.


28 posted on 01/05/2013 2:27:09 PM PST by logitech (Who's here so vile, that will not love his country? If any speak, for him I have offended)
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To: levon
ND just has too much team speed for the Tide...

Just remember the name 'Amari Cooper'.

29 posted on 01/05/2013 3:44:09 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Fiji Hill

Hey! I went to Whittier High School. I asume you are talking about California.


30 posted on 01/05/2013 4:51:20 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: BenLurkin

I think Navy, Purdue, Wake Forest and Boston College all beat Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic and the fighting Catamounts of Western Carolina.....not to mention they are probably a toss-up against Tennessee, Auburn and Ole Miss....and that’s essentially one-half of Alabama’s “grueling SEC schedule”......LOL


31 posted on 01/05/2013 4:51:38 PM PST by levon
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To: Hoodat
Hatred? Some people never grow up.

Have any of these juvenile haters ever considered that without great opponents like Notre Dame, Auburn, & Tennessee, Alabama would be little more than a redneck trade school?

Suppose Notre Dame, Auburn & Tennessee stopped playing Bama in football out of shear mutual hatred. Suppose Bama was left with only poor opponents to play, ones you can but pity rather than hate? How would that affect Bama’s prestige w/i the sports community? Doesn't the power & prestige of your opponent increase your own prestige? Would we admire Mohammed Ali without Frasier & Foreman?

I DO NOT want college sports to follow the path of European soccer leagues, which have degenerated into hooliganism, both on & off the field. Already an Alabama Fan (hater) has destroyed beautiful trees in an Auburn park, purely out of hatred.

The idea that one HATES his opponents is contrary to good sportsmanship & just plain ignorant. Encouraging hatred teaches the wrong lesson to players & fans.

(Being a redneck myself, I can call others that, just as blacks may use the N-word without rebuke.)

32 posted on 01/05/2013 4:52:49 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Hoodat

33 posted on 01/05/2013 4:53:55 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Hoodat

And then, there is my favorite, Barrett Jones Memphian.


34 posted on 01/05/2013 5:00:09 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Mister Da

Tennessee and Auburn combined for 8-16 this year.


35 posted on 01/05/2013 5:01:50 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Coldwater Creek
Hey! I went to Whittier High School. I asume you are talking about California.

So did I.

36 posted on 01/05/2013 5:15:48 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Hoodat
I think Alabama will win, but it won't be nearly as satisfying as beating Penn State in '79, Miami in '92, or Texas in 2010.

The HELL you say!! I can think of NOTHING more satisfying than beating the Irish AND depriving them of a national championship at the same time.

If Auburn were playing ND, I would be shouting WAR EAGLE just as if I had graduated from that cow college.

The only thing I can't decide is if would be more satisfying to win on a disputed call on the last play of the game, or if I would rather see them stomped into the ground, depressing their pathetic pretensions for another 20 years. All in all, I think the latter, as I don't know if I can stand the tension of the former.

Of course, they have to win for all my dreams to come true. We'll know Monday night. ROLL TIDE

37 posted on 01/05/2013 5:20:23 PM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: chesley
If Auburn were playing ND, I would be shouting WAR EAGLE just as if I had graduated from that cow college.

I would throw in a 'War Damn Eagle' just for good measure. Heck, I could even see myself pulling for Georgia or even a team that Steve Spurrier coaches over Notre Dame.

38 posted on 01/05/2013 5:25:20 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Fiji Hill

I graduated 100 years ago. I love Whittier. All of my children were born at Presbyterian hospital.


39 posted on 01/05/2013 5:32:41 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Coldwater Creek
I graduated 100 years ago. I love Whittier. All of my children were born at Presbyterian hospital.

I remember when Pres opened in 1959. It replaced Murphy Hospital, which was on the site of a present-day residential housing development.

I always attend the WHS barbecue that takes place on the campus in October.

40 posted on 01/05/2013 5:43:40 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Fiji Hill

I live in Memphis Tennessee. My parents are buried at Rose HIlls. Last time I was there was three years ago.


41 posted on 01/05/2013 5:57:23 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Hoodat

Alabama, Notre Dame Shaped American Culture, College Football

When Alabama and Notre Dame meet on January 7 for college football’s BCS championship, they will not be subjected to questions about race, religion, and region, like they were for much of the last century.

And today, any discussion about race, religion, and region concerning Alabama and Notre Dame is more positive in nature. Black football players are largely responsible for the SEC’s dominance. Notre Dame does not face the anti-Catholic bigotry it did the last century, and the face of the program, linebacker Manti Te’o, is a Mormon.

The country is more racially and religiously integrated, and the South is far less marginalized. And this is in part because of the influence Alabama and Notre Dame football has had on the nation's culture.

Consider how legendary Alabama football coach Bear Bryant and his Crimson Tide may have done as much to integrate the South as any civil rights leader by playing -- and losing -- a football game against USC in 1970 in Birmingham, Alabama.

42 posted on 01/05/2013 6:01:21 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Coldwater Creek

My parents are also buried at Rose Hills. I live in North Orange County, not far from Whittier.


43 posted on 01/05/2013 6:19:45 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: EEGator
Texas A&M lost 2 games in the SEC and didn’t play in the conference championship.

They beat Alabama and humiliated Oklahoma.

44 posted on 01/05/2013 11:22:18 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: EEGator
The SEC will win the championship...again.

You have a 50% chance of being correct.

45 posted on 01/06/2013 1:29:29 AM PST by Isabel C.
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To: Alaska Wolf

True, but they still lost to Florida and LSU, and didn’t have to play the SEC East champ. Oklahoma was their bowl game, so you can’t use that game to say they should be in the BCS Bowl game.


46 posted on 01/06/2013 5:26:32 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Isabel C.

You’re 100% correct. :)


47 posted on 01/06/2013 5:28:02 AM PST by EEGator
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To: All

I wonder if Alabama loses, will some of their fans head up to South Bend and poison the trees?


48 posted on 01/06/2013 5:34:59 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Hoodat

ANYBODY playing Notre Dame is my #2 team. ANYBODY!


49 posted on 01/06/2013 7:30:24 AM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: EEGator
they still lost to Florida and LSU,

Alabama barely beat LSU and the Aggies beat Alabama. Texas A&M lost by three to Florida while Alabama beat Florida Atlantic. Why would a BCS championship team schedule a Sun Belt cellar dweller anyhow?

50 posted on 01/06/2013 8:10:13 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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