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Exclusive: Cops, detectives,.... tell Natural News they will not enforce gun confiscation orders
NaturalNews ^ | 12/19/2012 | Mike Adams

Posted on 12/19/2012 9:01:37 PM PST by djf

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To: coloradan

Yep. Believe what they do, not what they say.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 9:46:27 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Navy Patriot
Why would Obama order house to house searches when he could just order the arrest in public of the most important targets and hold them indefinitely until they instruct their families to bring the guns down to the station? Or take the wife and same deal? Or take the kids and same deal?

No offense, FRiend, but are you smokin'dope?
22 posted on 12/19/2012 9:50:08 PM PST by 867V309
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To: djf
So you believe the government would incarcerate millions of people?

The point is that they don't need to incarcerate millions, just enough examples.

The lefties and the press will allow people with "arsenals" to be arrested, look at how they demonize gun collectors. Anonymous informants can't be wrong,...or plants. Observe the "wrong address" drug raids, and how no "good guy" cops speak up mentioning "we were wrong", nah, the occupant was breaking some "reasonable" law. Remember ATF raided Waco with the press present, because UPS delivered an inert joke hand grenade.

Including spouses and children of current government workers, various current and past LE officials, veterans, military, even Congress itself?

You seem to forget the Arkancide list from the Clinton years. Were women, children and girlfriends off limits?

I don’t think so.

Care to rethink?

23 posted on 12/19/2012 10:13:38 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: 867V309

See #23.


24 posted on 12/19/2012 10:19:38 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

A long time ago, a bunch of troops were ordered to search for and confiscate weapons.

They were met at a bridge by a group of rag-tag local folks who were determined to not let them do it.

The troops were devastated.

It was Old North Bridge, near Concord, Massachusetts.

The first battle.

The first shots of the first revolutionary war.


25 posted on 12/19/2012 10:33:12 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: Navy Patriot
The point is that they don't need to incarcerate millions, just enough examples.

I don't think you have thought this through. "JUST ENOUGH EXAMPLES"? Say 500,000 examples? Ten thousand per state? That's conservatively only ONE PERCENT of US gunowners. 500,000 accused felons, each one claiming his Constitutional right to bear arms and supported with a flood of money by the NRA, numerous other conservative groups, and fine folks like you and I, would create complete federal judicial gridlock. Things go down-hill from there...
26 posted on 12/19/2012 10:35:01 PM PST by 867V309
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To: djf

Even if a cop or soldier took guns successfully from the first few homes, a phone call down the street would get him killed and the guns returned to the rightful owner. No cop or soldier makes enough to know he’s going to die...


27 posted on 12/19/2012 10:35:55 PM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: djf
If Obozo and his minions exercise the confiscation option, they're waiting for a complacent population to standby and wait to be raided. Ah, no. Remember that this is not a zero sum game where the government thugs (a very small population when compared to the country as a whole) gets to pick and choose its targets that are passive. On the contrary, the victims will become predators and actively hunt the raiders, This is a guerrilla war and the gun owners will swim in the sea of the people at large.

Government attempts to intimidate the population with shows and demonstrations of force will be applied blindly and indiscriminately. That's bad because innocents will be punished along with everyone else. The government goons will succeed in creating more enemies than friends. Liberals and Leftists will be targeted because this is now a civil war. It will not be pretty and there's no guarantee that Obama’s thugs will prevail.

28 posted on 12/19/2012 10:57:20 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: 867V309
Well I don't think you've thought this through.

These gun confiscation orders will come down AFTER possession has been outlawed by the Congress and signed by the President, and that could easily happen if the GOP loses the house.

Additionally, SCOTUS is looking at overturning the past individual right in favor of the left's collective right for the military to have your gun. If Roberts backstabs like Obamacare, 2A for the people is entirely gone.

Those 500,000 would already be felons for NOT turning in their guns, they'll get no help from anybody.

Even if Congress outlaws just one model of firearm as an "assault weapon", the first arrest will go to court and run the risk of SCOTUS eventually overturning the individual right, in which case all guns are by government permission and whim. When the left has the power to deny permission on whatever offends them what happens?

29 posted on 12/19/2012 11:13:40 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: djf

Civilians should be allowed to have whatever weapons law enforcement is allowed to have, for the exact same reasons law enforcement has them.

Either the world is dangerous, and people can arm themselves as they see fit, or it is safe and we can have law enforcement unilaterally disarm “because nobody needs a weapon like a........”

This is the fundamental flaw in the liberal gun grabbing argument.

In todays environment police are arming themselves with every MORE potent weapons, including sniper rifles, automatic weapons along with armored vehicles.

Why should law-abiding citizens not be allowed the same tools as the police?


30 posted on 12/19/2012 11:15:24 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Navy Patriot

Couldn’t get through, but I tried.

Merry Christmas, Friend!


31 posted on 12/19/2012 11:18:25 PM PST by 867V309
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The citizens of the Soviet Union, Communist China, Cambodia, Cuba all were sure their national army and police would not turn their guns on the good citizens.

All were wrong, all were disarmed and three imprisoned and exterminated over 150 million good peaceful citizens.

And we gun owners don't have the good press that those citizens had.

Merry Christmas to you.

32 posted on 12/19/2012 11:30:28 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: djf
It's becomeing obvious that designating a 'gun free zone' is an open invitation to violence. It's resulting in the oppposite way that it was intended. It tells the assailant that he will face no opposition, that he's clear to commit any atrocity.
33 posted on 12/19/2012 11:34:47 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: djf

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago 


34 posted on 12/19/2012 11:44:58 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Eagles6

XLENT QUOTE!

Been probably 20 years since I read that. Should read it again.


35 posted on 12/19/2012 11:49:43 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: djf

He made me pull my head out of my nether regions 30 yrs ago. Truly a great man.


36 posted on 12/20/2012 12:04:05 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: djf

bump


37 posted on 12/20/2012 12:33:30 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: djf

Bullshit..... LEO....ALL LEO have been enforcing blatantly unconstituonal
laws and regulations for decades. When they are offered the choice of
enforcing any new anti 2A laws and unemployment they will do what they
have always done....tell their massa’s who sign their paychecks “yessa bossman, right away”.


38 posted on 12/20/2012 1:36:58 AM PST by nvscanman
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To: wastoute

I’d have NO problem taking out anyone with a blue helmet who came for my guns.
F the u.n.


39 posted on 12/20/2012 3:08:29 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: djf

98% of LEO’s will do what they’re told and not even complain much. If you’re relying on cops to protect you or your rights, you’re naive. Besides, direct confiscation is unnecessary. A $10,000/yr possession tax enforced by the IRS with compounded penalties would scare 90% of the guns out the hands of Americans. We’ve seen from obamacare that the SCOTUS will stomach any sort of tax.


40 posted on 12/20/2012 3:14:09 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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