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DNA From 'In Cold Blood' Killers Could Solve 1959 Florida Cold Case
ABC News ^ | Dec. 3, 2012 | ALYSSA NEWCOMB

Posted on 12/03/2012 6:24:52 PM PST by nickcarraway

More than 50 years after the Walker family was murdered in the quiet, carefree town of Osprey, Fla., the focus of the cold case investigation has shifted to two notorious killers who were the basis of Truman Capote's true-crime book "In Cold Blood."

Investigators from the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office are hoping to travel to Kansas as soon as an order is approved by a judge to exhume the bodies of Perry Smith and Richard Hickock. They hope mitochondrial DNA evidence collected from the bones of the killers, who were executed by hanging in 1965, will help close a cold case that rattled Sarasota County.

On Dec. 19, 1959, the Walker family, including parents Cliff and Christine and their toddler children Jimmie and Debbie, were shot to death in their Osprey home.

Detective Kim McGath, who has been assigned to the Walker case for the past four years, said she decided to start from the beginning last year in investigating the case, and through her research developed a hunch that Smith and Hickock could be responsible. The men were briefly investigated in 1960, but were ruled out as suspects after passing lie detector tests.

"Some things started jumping out at me," she told ABCNews.com.

After committing the "In Cold Blood" murder of Herbert Clutter, his wife and two children on Nov. 15, 1959, Smith and Hickock hit the road, hiding out from law enforcement in Mexico and Florida, among other places, according to Capote's book and law enforcement accounts. They were ultimately captured in Las Vegas.

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: crime; florida; mtdna

1 posted on 12/03/2012 6:24:58 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I can’t follow the story from this poorly written ‘article’ from ABC. Obviously, an Obama era graduate wrote this drivel.


2 posted on 12/03/2012 6:39:13 PM PST by STD (“Cogito, ergo armatum sum)
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To: nickcarraway
Photobucket I doubt that Smith and Hickock were responsible for the Florida killings tho it is possible. They murdered the Clutters because a fellow inmate told them he had worked for Herb and that he had a safe full of cash. In other words the Clutters were not random victims. I used to live only a couple of hundred yards from the Clutter family's graves. I took this photo back then.
3 posted on 12/03/2012 6:43:44 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: yarddog

Even if it’s only a snowball’s chance that the two are connected, this is a good way to get some nationwide exposure for your small-town cold case. The news loves stories like this, so they’ll get a bunch of PR and maybe some leads that are worthwhile from the people reading about it and remembering something.


4 posted on 12/03/2012 7:12:55 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: yarddog
Have you seen Capote? It's a pretty good dissection of the murderers, Capote's fascination with one of them and the whole liberal NY scene that celebrates criminal causes and the cocktail parties libs are known for.
5 posted on 12/03/2012 7:26:55 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

Yes I saw “Capote” and thought it was pretty good. One of my professors at Troy was from Monroeville, Alabama and I think was kin to Capote. He could sure imitate Capote’s speech patterns.

There are those who think Capote wrote “To Kill A Mockingbird” instead of his cousin Harper Lee. Then there are some who say Harper Lee wrote “In Cold Blood”

Of course everyone thinks “Mockingbird” is a true story when it is simply another politically correct anti Southern White where the Black guy is falsely accused. In the movies and TV shows the Blacks are always innocent and in the real world they are always guilty.


6 posted on 12/03/2012 7:45:12 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: yarddog

I didn’t know Harper Lee was his cousin.


7 posted on 12/03/2012 8:32:45 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: yarddog

There was a remarkably similar case to Mockingbird in Arizona in the 20s or 30s. Hubby is asleep, or I would ask him specifics. Hubby was doing research for a project, and he was reading through old Arizona newspapers. He found a story so similar that he called me from the library to tell me about it. One of the people in the story was even named Atticus. I will write more about this when I have the details.


8 posted on 12/03/2012 8:40:35 PM PST by petitfour
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To: petitfour

if theres a girl named Scout then the story in true...

:)


9 posted on 12/03/2012 9:20:13 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: nickcarraway; Revolting cat!

So she’s spinning deather conspiracy theories?


10 posted on 12/03/2012 9:21:36 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: yarddog

I agree, it was always obvious to me that Capote wrote, or had a strong hand in, Mockingbird. Terrible movie, just terrible.


11 posted on 12/04/2012 1:22:26 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: petitfour

I’d be very interested in hearing about it.


12 posted on 12/04/2012 1:24:25 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: yarddog

Saying an accused black man is always guilty is every bit as idiotic as saying he’s always innocent.

Making the determination is the reason we have trials.


13 posted on 12/04/2012 6:27:36 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: yarddog

what an unspeakable thing to happen to that family.


14 posted on 12/04/2012 8:29:49 AM PST by midnightcat
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To: yarddog; kabumpo
There are those who think Capote wrote “To Kill A Mockingbird” instead of his cousin Harper Lee.

My father-in-law is an acquaintance of Harper Lee and is certain she wrote the book.

One of things he points to is a July 1959 letter from Capote to Harper Lee. In the letter, Capote tells Lee that he read her (unnamed) book, that he liked it, and that she was very talented. Lee hadn't written any published books by July 1959.

However, in July 1960, To Kill A Mockingbird was published, so it's assumed Capote was commenting on a manuscript.

Nothing in the 1959 letter suggests any work by Capote on the book. If he had any input on TKAM, it would have been editing work between July 1959 and publication.

By the way, Truman Capote wasn't related to Harper Lee. They were just good friends.

15 posted on 12/04/2012 10:04:08 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

I personally never thought Capote wrote “Mockingbird” or that Lee wrote “In Cold Blood” but it has been speculated a lot.

I am not sure where I got the idea that they were cousins, but I have had that misunderstanding for a long time. I do remember them both being from Monroeville, Alabama tho right now I couldn’t even say I know that for sure.


16 posted on 12/04/2012 10:17:33 AM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: yarddog

They were neighbors, schoolmates, and childhood best friends in Monroeville.


17 posted on 12/04/2012 11:23:47 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Boogieman
A good friend of mine's sister was murdered in Maryland back in 1993 and her case bacame an episode on the TV show "Unsolved Mysteries"

At the time, there were numerous suspects she had associated with or dated from the Seafarers Union school she was attending who were investigated but police didn't have any evidence.

In 1997, the murderer was found in the Polk County jail in Florida where he was serving time for an unrelated crime. He had admitted to another inmate that he had killed a girl and when the inmated asked him who, he said it was the girl on Unsolved Mysteries.

The guy likely would never have been caught since he had only met Nancy in a bar that night she was killed.........

18 posted on 12/04/2012 12:07:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Scoutmaster

Thank you for writing, and for the information. A lot could have happened in the editing process. What always made me doubt her was that she never wrote anything else.
And, yes, I knew that she and Capote were not related. It was another FRpr who wrote that.


19 posted on 12/04/2012 6:46:54 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Scoutmaster

Thank you for writing, and for the information. A lot could have happened in the editing process. What always made me doubt her was that she never wrote anything else.
And, yes, I knew that she and Capote were not related. It was another FRpr who wrote that.


20 posted on 12/04/2012 6:46:54 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Scoutmaster

Thank you for writing, and for the information. A lot could have happened in the editing process. What always made me doubt her was that she never wrote anything else.
And, yes, I knew that she and Capote were not related. It was another FRpr who wrote that.


21 posted on 12/04/2012 6:47:24 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Scoutmaster

Thank you for writing, and for the information. A lot could have happened in the editing process. What always made me doubt her was that she never wrote anything else.
And, yes, I knew that she and Capote were not related. It was another FRpr who wrote that.


22 posted on 12/04/2012 6:48:16 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Scoutmaster

Thank you for writing, and for the information. A lot could have happened in the editing process. What always made me doubt her was that she never wrote anything else.
And, yes, I knew that she and Capote were not related. It was another FRpr who wrote that.


23 posted on 12/04/2012 6:48:27 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo
What always made me doubt her was that she never wrote anything else.

Lee's explanation is:

"Two reasons: one, I wouldn't go through the pressure and publicity I went through with To Kill A Mockingbird for any amount of money. Second, I have said what I wanted to say and I will not say it again."

BTW, Lee published a few short stories after To Kill A Mockingbird.

24 posted on 12/05/2012 7:22:23 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

If you know about writing and publishing, you know this statement is nonsense. J.D. Salinger continued to write and publish while living like a hermit.


25 posted on 12/05/2012 8:11:36 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo
I'm confused. What statement?

When drafting my reply, I initially wrote something about Salinger having published short stories and novellas but only one novel, but I deleted that from my reply in draft and preview before I posted. I didn't think it supported my point and I agree with you.

Where did you see something about Salinger?

26 posted on 12/05/2012 8:36:00 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

The statement Lee made about not being able to stand the publicity. I referred to Salinger to refute what Lee said, since he was obsessed with privacy, but continued to write and publish more books.


27 posted on 12/05/2012 8:52:14 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo
I understand now.

I can only offer that Lee and Salinger were different people.

28 posted on 12/05/2012 9:10:06 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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