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1 posted on 11/25/2012 8:48:13 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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Bottom line? It really says a lot to who folks hired to be teachers and educators....that they couldn’t take a test on the subjects they teach. But if pull the top layer off...it’s because everyone got into a ‘education-degree’, which basically teaches you how to teach, but didn’t really cover the topic to any significant degree. We all allowed the board of education and the County Superintendent that we elected....to hire weak ‘education-degree’ folks. You could have skated through four years of college and know mostly nothing about topics, but we’ve hired you to teach those topics. So two groups are at fault here.

As for replacing these who are caught cheating? Well....we will find more of the educational-degree folks, with weak backgrounds....to replace them. It’s that simple.

If I may suggest this....you might as well find a fairly smart 20-year old who finished up two years at a community college and has a math-science type degree....to teach strictly math at your local school, and pay the guy a starting pay of $32k a year, and he’d be awful happy. For the next twenty years, the kids would all get a real math professional instead of some ‘educational-degree’ individual.


2 posted on 11/25/2012 8:55:07 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Uncle Chip

Seems the whole country is corrupt.


3 posted on 11/25/2012 8:55:30 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Of course what is unstated is the race of the perps. Any guesses?


4 posted on 11/25/2012 8:57:19 AM PST by twister881
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"...a large-scale scandal involving teacher certification tests was discovered in 2000, also in the South... 52 teachers [paid] up to $1,000 apiece to a former Educational Testing Services proctor to ensure a passing grade... Teachers from Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, Tennessee and Mississippi took tests through Philander Smith College in Little Rock, Ark., in 1998. The college was not accused of wrongdoing.

How ironic that a cheating scandal involved the name "Philander."

A mind is a terrible thing to waste: Philander Smith College

5 posted on 11/25/2012 8:58:51 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Not only no, but HELL NO we will NOT moderate our stance."-- Jim Robinson)
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To: Uncle Chip
IMHO...
actually the FEDS are screaming, "Where's Our Cut"
It's a really just warehousing job...
..when using the NEA Unions thugs..as "enforcers"

7 posted on 11/25/2012 9:00:11 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: Uncle Chip

I took the CBEST test in California, to qualify for sub positions. The test is a joke, I could have passed it as a high school senior. Many educators, however, claim it’s too difficult.


8 posted on 11/25/2012 9:00:28 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Uncle Chip

He’s the tip top of the iceberg.


9 posted on 11/25/2012 9:01:01 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Sad. Even the teachers cheat.


12 posted on 11/25/2012 9:15:56 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Clarence Mumford Sr

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(WMC-TV) - A son has been indicted for allegedly scamming his way into a teaching job just a month after his father was indicted for heading up a group that investigators say took tests for aspiring teachers. RELATED ITEMS News release on indictment against Clarence Mumford, Jr., and Dante Dowers 

Man accused of orchestrating teacher certification scheme Clarence Mumford, Jr., is accused of having someone else take his PRAXIS exam. Federal prosecutors say he used those test results to become a licensed educator in Tennessee.

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John Bowen, 63, pled guilty to conspiracy to commit mail fraud, wire fraud, Social Security fraud and fraud in connection with identification documents. Bowen admitted he was paid by the scam's ringleader, Clarence Mumford, Sr., to take certification tests under other people's identities.

Mumford, Sr., his son Clarence Mumford, Jr., and Dante Dowers were charged in a 49-count indictment for fraud and aggravated identity theft for charging aspiring teachers in Tennessee, Mississippi and Arkansas $1,500 to $3,000 per test to have stand-ins take the Praxis certification for them. According to the indictment, the scam ran from 1995 to March 2010.

Bowen stated at his hearing he met Mumford, Sr. during the 1994-95 school year while he was a substitute teacher at Humes High School, where Mumford was the assistant principal. Bowen said he had three or four tests per year since 2000 and was paid hundreds of dollars for each test. Investigators eventually caught Bowen in 2009 when he took two tests under two identities on the same day at Arkansas State University in Jonesboro. Other test takers hired by Mumford were also present at the time doing the same thing.

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Man in Teaching Fraud Scandal Gets DUI Trial Continuance Tunica County, Ms -

A day after being indicted and accused of acting as the ringleader of a 3-state teacher test-taking scheme, Clarence Mumford did not come to court in Tunica County, Mississippi. He was arrested by sheriff's deputies there in April after being picked up at a Robinsonville convenience store for DUI and indecent exposure. Mumford's trial in that case, set for Wednesday, has been continued. Meanwhile his Federal case in Memphis is just getting started. .

14 posted on 11/25/2012 9:27:35 AM PST by kcvl
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and the RATS, take another one in the.........HA ha!!!

16 posted on 11/25/2012 9:54:29 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Among those charged is former University of Tennessee and NFL wide receiver Cedrick Wilson, who is accused of employing a test-taker for a Praxis physical education exam.

Geez, how hard could that have been?

18 posted on 11/25/2012 10:31:43 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Would love some photos of these despicables..


20 posted on 11/25/2012 12:05:27 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Uncle Chip

When Clinton’s lie became a joke...why worry?


21 posted on 11/25/2012 12:27:12 PM PST by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: Uncle Chip

I went to a doctor once. Obviously they asked for ID, but they also took a picture of me. Wouldn’t it be nice if the people administering these tests also could find a way to take a nice, pretty, picture of each stand-in, sorry, I mean future teacher.


22 posted on 11/25/2012 12:41:27 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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“Prosecutors and standardized test experts...”

Johnny, what do you want to be when you grow up.

(in a high-pitched voice) “I want to be a Standardized Test Expert”.

If people want to know why this country is sinking by the day, one only has to look at career options...like this one.


23 posted on 11/25/2012 12:44:19 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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“Teachers from Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, Tennessee and Mississippi took tests through PHILANDER Smith College...” (emphasis mine)

No, NOTHING in that name suggests cheating. One has to be an ABSOLUTE IDIOT to even believe a college with that name exists - much less accept any test scores coming from them.


24 posted on 11/25/2012 12:47:09 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Uncle Chip; duffee; onyx; DrewsMum; Tupelo; mstar; jdirt; Vietnam Vet From New Mexico; wardaddy; ...

Mississippi ping


27 posted on 11/25/2012 12:54:44 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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The legacy of Willie “Hump ‘em” Harrington.


32 posted on 11/26/2012 6:12:57 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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