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Lincoln (Vanity)

Posted on 11/17/2012 5:36:12 PM PST by camerongood210

Have any fellow FReepers seen this movie yet? If so, what did you think and would you recommend it?


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1 posted on 11/17/2012 5:36:17 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: camerongood210

I’ve been waiting to hear if this was a hatchet job or not.

Wouldn’t surprise me if they worked a reference to Obamas future pResidency into the script somehow


2 posted on 11/17/2012 5:39:55 PM PST by digger48
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To: camerongood210

Historically, Lincoln doesn’t do well in theaters.

(too soon??)


3 posted on 11/17/2012 5:40:13 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: camerongood210

Well, Obozo has had a private viewing with Schpielberg, the Castro-lover, Day-Lewis and Lee-Jones dancing attendance...
And it seems to be all about emancipation...I really don’t know...
I’m giving it a pass because of Nov 2012 as well as Nov 2008.
No more support of the corrupt culture.


4 posted on 11/17/2012 5:46:05 PM PST by matginzac
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To: camerongood210

I saw it this afternoon. I almost never go to the movies, but I wanted to see this one. While I thought it was pretty good, it could have been better. It has more to do with the political wheeling-dealing to get the 13th Amendment passed than it does with the life and death of Lincoln. They didn’t even reenact the assassination. Lincoln’s youngest son is at a theater, but not Ford’s, watching a play that isn’t Our American Cousin, when someone runs onto stage and shouts that the President has been shot. Tommy Lee Jones did a fantastic portrayal of Thaddeus Stevens in my opinion. I’ll stop now since I don’t want to ruin it for anybody. I’d give it 3 out 4 stars.


5 posted on 11/17/2012 5:50:08 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: camerongood210

I’m not giving Hollyweird a dime. I can wait until movies are on tv and even then usually pass on the recent ones.


6 posted on 11/17/2012 5:51:23 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: camerongood210

Saw it last night. Brilliant film with great performances by Daniel Day-Lewis and Tommy Lee Jones. Pretty no nonsense approach to the story without the expected Lib bias. The film does not paint the Democrat party in a pretty light and accurately portrays the divisions within the Republican Party.

“Lost Causers” will hate the politics of the film, but by and large this was an accurate representation of the historical record and of Lincoln. The only one oddity was Spielberg decided to alter the names of some Representatives who voted against the 13th Amendment out of deference to the families.


7 posted on 11/17/2012 5:52:16 PM PST by gallandro1
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To: camerongood210

I saw it this afternoon. Very few ‘action’ scenes but the acting was superb and you learn a LOT about the passage of the 13th amendment in the House. Of course it was based on a Doris Kearns book so who knows where SHE got the information. 2.5 hours so hit the potty before you go.


8 posted on 11/17/2012 5:54:12 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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To: camerongood210

I will agree with rdl6989 in one aspect.. This is very much a movie about Lincoln in the context of political policy... it does get very deep into political wonk. However I disagree with the handling of the assassination... I thought it was very clever and removed the moment from the political arena where most of the film took place, and transitioned to the personal.


9 posted on 11/17/2012 6:00:24 PM PST by gallandro1
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To: camerongood210

I heard a radio ad this morning where Lincoln is talking about fairness. I have the soundtrack.


10 posted on 11/17/2012 6:03:13 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Zeppelin

Funny, and not too soon


11 posted on 11/17/2012 6:03:21 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: camerongood210
"Freepers" Flock to Lincoln after Steven Spielberg Gives President Obama Super PAC $1 Million ...
12 posted on 11/17/2012 6:07:35 PM PST by wolficatZ (Traitors, every one of 'em.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

When does he kill the vampires? Is the violence overdone?


13 posted on 11/17/2012 6:08:00 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: gallandro1

I guess I went into the theater expecting to see a movie about a young man in Indiana and Kentucky splitting rails and teaching himself to read, then failing at innumerable careers in Illinois before going to Washington.


14 posted on 11/17/2012 6:08:28 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: rabidralph

That’s a different movie. Don’t waste your money on that one.


15 posted on 11/17/2012 6:09:08 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: bgill
I’m not giving Hollyweird a dime. I can wait until movies are on tv and even then usually pass on the recent ones.

You do know that you are still giving Hollywood "your dime" when you are doing that, don't you? The 'tv' has to pay Hollywood for the right to show those movies.

The only people you are not giving money to are the local theater owners who do employ some of your neighbors. So who are you really holding back your money from? Hollywood, or your neighbors?

16 posted on 11/17/2012 6:11:47 PM PST by Ditto
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To: rabidralph

Well, the scene where he holds the still-beating heart he tears out of the Dem House leader HAS to be pretty violent or it wouldn’t work, but mostly it’s a film of him and Mary taking long walks on Pennsylvania Avenue reciting poetry.


17 posted on 11/17/2012 6:14:07 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I am there!


18 posted on 11/17/2012 6:16:03 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Zeppelin

LOL — Thanks for the laugh.


19 posted on 11/17/2012 6:17:02 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Zeppelin
"Historically, Lincoln doesn’t do well in theaters."

We just went to see it...arrived 20 minutes before posted start time.....sold out.

20 posted on 11/17/2012 6:17:19 PM PST by cookcounty ("For the first time in my adult life I am not proud of my country.")
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To: cookcounty

Did you follow his joke lol???


21 posted on 11/17/2012 6:18:15 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: gallandro1

“Lost Causers”

Yeah, liberal Yankees usually say stupid thing like that.


22 posted on 11/17/2012 6:21:01 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: gallandro1

“Lost Causers” will hate the politics of the film...”

Tells me more about you than the film. Moron.


23 posted on 11/17/2012 6:21:24 PM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: gallandro1

“Lost Causers”

Yeah, liberal Yankees usually say stupid things like that.


24 posted on 11/17/2012 6:21:25 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: camerongood210
'Lincoln' Review: Spielberg Resists Liberal Talking Points, Day-Lewis Stakes Claim to Oscar
Steven Spielberg recruited far-left writer Tony Kushner, the playwright behind "Angels in America," to help bring Abraham Lincoln to the big screen.

Both men left political posturing aside to focus on the President's herculean effort to push the 13th amendment through.

That leaves "Lincoln" as the most ornate political drama in ages, a nuts and bolts affair showing how an historic piece of legislation passed during the height of the Civil War. We're even treated to the amusing sight of a film extolling Republicans for their work on behalf of civil rights.

So why does "Lincoln," despite its sincerity, intelligence and a masterful turn by Daniel Day-Lewis as the famed president, fail to soar as it should?

[...]

"Lincoln" will mop up Oscar nominations all the same. Day-Lewis should prepare his victory speech, and the film's handsome production is filled with "nominate me!" winks. It still doesn't live up to the 16th president, no matter how earnest and even-handed its approach.

25 posted on 11/17/2012 6:28:43 PM PST by Bratch
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To: camerongood210

If Sally Fields doesn’t fly in, forget it.


26 posted on 11/17/2012 6:29:03 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: matginzac

Why no movies and TV programs set in the Reconstruction era with black members of Congress trying to head off segregation and Jim Crow?

Oh, because they were all Republicans?


27 posted on 11/17/2012 6:46:34 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: gallandro1

Why would they need to alter names?

It’s not like those people are still around.


28 posted on 11/17/2012 6:47:53 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: camerongood210
can't be worse than Lincoln, Vampire Hunter...
29 posted on 11/17/2012 6:58:06 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GeronL

Bingo...
Walk up to a black person today and watch his/her face when you tell them MartinLuther King was a Republican...
Watch his/her face when you tell them “Amazing Grace” was written by a white, English guy....
They have NO clue.....


30 posted on 11/17/2012 7:07:42 PM PST by matginzac
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To: camerongood210

Spoiler — he dies in the end.

It’s good. It’s Spielberg’s attempt at another Schindler’s list.

The movie could aptly be called “Lincoln — The 13th amendment”. Since that is really what this movie is about. Lincoln’s political machinations to get it passed. I don’t know how historically accurate it is, but it doesn’t avoid the historical fact that Lincoln was a Republican and anti-slavery was a Republican issue while Democrats were pro slavery scums.

The movie can’t keep us in suspense as to what the outcomes where, so it titillates us with political intrigue and Lincoln anecdotes. I felt there were some misplaced and gratuitous manipulative scenes.

I didn’t find it violent, but there is mild cussing and some bloody scenes in the hospitals. Despite the rumors to the contrary, the movie had no homosexual hints whatsoever. I wouldn’t keep my 8 or 9 year old from seeing it.

Daniel Day Lewis does a superb and powerful job. David Strathairn as Seward was a bit wooden, but solid. Seward (an ancestor of mine) himself was probably just as wooden. Tommy Lee Jones as Thadeus Stevens turns in a solid performance.

Sally Fields gets a little too much screen time and perhaps some misplaced dialog but was an excellent choice for the role.

James Spader as W.N Bilbo steals the scenes he’s in, even up against Daniel Day Lewis. Jared Harris as Grant turned in a fine performance.

David Costabile as James Ashley was a bit weak. Jackie Earle Haley as Alexander Stephens was an odd casting choice, but worked.

Daniel Day Lewis is sure to come away with an Academy Award, but eh, I thought Romney was really going to win too.


31 posted on 11/17/2012 7:14:34 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: InvisibleChurch

Doesn’t Sally Fields play Mary Todd Lincoln?
Bleeeeeeeeeeeech!


32 posted on 11/17/2012 7:14:41 PM PST by matginzac
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To: InvisibleChurch

Doesn’t Sally Fields play Mary Todd Lincoln?
Bleeeeeeeeeeeech!


33 posted on 11/17/2012 7:14:45 PM PST by matginzac
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To: InvisibleChurch

Doesn’t Sally Fields play Mary Todd Lincoln?
Bleeeeeeeeeeeech!


34 posted on 11/17/2012 7:14:56 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Zeppelin

ha, have seen that saying on my facebook already.

I may see it. By the way if you have liberal friends that say they might see it, freak them out by telling them...”I don’t know if I should tell you this, it could really upset you, but there’s something you should know.

“Come over here and sit down. I don’t want you to faint.
This Lincoln....was...

“...a Republican...”

:)


35 posted on 11/17/2012 7:16:09 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Usagi_yo
Spoiler — he dies in the end.

Other than that, how was the play?

36 posted on 11/17/2012 7:16:27 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: matginzac

bump

Yep, if I got rich somehow, I’d have a movie and a TV documentary (with a book too) made about that time period. Many people would not believe it I bet.

I am sure there are letters, diaries, journals and other documents that get very little attention. Ken Burns won’t do it! lol


37 posted on 11/17/2012 7:19:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: matginzac

She does


38 posted on 11/17/2012 7:33:10 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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To: matginzac

a fine job


39 posted on 11/17/2012 7:33:46 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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To: matginzac

as Mary.


40 posted on 11/17/2012 7:34:21 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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To: camerongood210

I have not seen it and probably won’t - that way Hollywood gets less money to use against conservatives and Christians.


41 posted on 11/17/2012 7:35:46 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: rdl6989; shibumi

I’m looking forward to “Django Unchained” in which a man “kills white folks and gets paid for it”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUdM9vrCbow


42 posted on 11/17/2012 7:39:44 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep. Anthony Douglas Williams)
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To: jessduntno

Amusing... My point, before your knee jerk reaction, is if you fall into the category of that group of Civil War historian/aficionados, you’re not going to like the politics of this film.

Yancy


43 posted on 11/17/2012 7:59:33 PM PST by gallandro1
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To: camerongood210

My friend fell asleep three times and I fell asleep once.
A few comments;
It was half hour too long.
Sally Field’s angst was painful to watch.
If she accurately portrayed Mrs. Lincoln, whoa..high maintenance!

DD Lewis was magnificent. But after a few long stories
complete with pauses and drawls, I was convinced that he was going to win the Oscar and ready to move on to ...some action..of which there was little.

Finally, the recognizable Hollywood Spielberg buddies portraying major characters in the film was a mistake.
Sally Field is Sybil and the Flying Nun. James Spader is the cigar smoking lawyer having a scotch with William Shatner on the roof. Tommy Lee Jones is the Fugitives’ foil.
I did enjoy seeing John Candy and Hal Holbrook, however.

The death scene didn’t fit with the rest of the film and was glossed over.
So those are my impressions for what they are worth.


44 posted on 11/17/2012 8:07:19 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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45 posted on 11/17/2012 8:29:22 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Zeppelin

> Historically, Lincoln doesn’t do well in theaters.

Brilliant and funny!


46 posted on 11/17/2012 8:59:40 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: camerongood210

great movie.

you could hear a pin drop, the crowd was so attentive. (intelligent, non-cell phone users). acting was fabulous. great sound and costumes.


47 posted on 11/17/2012 9:15:24 PM PST by bitt (The buck rolls downhill.)
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To: Zeppelin
Historically, Lincoln doesn’t do well in theaters. (too soon??)

Well it's only been 147 years.

48 posted on 11/17/2012 9:20:05 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: exit82
If Sally Fields doesn’t fly in, forget it.

Or ride in a Trans Am.

49 posted on 11/17/2012 9:23:31 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: matginzac

Tell them about ‘The Fredrick Douglas Republicans.com’’ and really see their heads explode.


50 posted on 11/17/2012 11:40:59 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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