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How will GOP solve fiscal cliff riddle?
Politico ^ | 11/8/12 11:09 PM EST | By STEVEN SLOAN and KELSEY SNELL

Posted on 11/08/2012 9:02:58 PM PST by ExxonPatrolUs

Republicans know they’re going to have to budge on revenues in the looming debt and spending debate. The question is when to blink.

The problem: Revenue increases, which could solve the fiscal cliff riddle this fall, are also their best bargaining chip for an even bigger fight to overhaul the Tax Code expected next year. GOP lawmakers — especially those on the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee — say tax increases should happen only as part of a fundamental Tax Code rewrite that also lowers marginal tax rates, a policy dream that won’t be realized until next year at the earliest.

So with 53 days left until the U.S. plunges off the fiscal cliff, House Speaker John Boehner will have to decide whether to sacrifice revenue earlier than he and other Republicans had hoped — and right now, he’s not saying.


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KEYWORDS: cliff; fiscal; gop; riddle; takersvsmakers
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

The GOP will do what it always does, cave into the Democrats.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 10:00:24 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

They will roll over and give the Democrats and Obama everything he wants as usual.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 10:00:49 PM PST by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: Trueblackman

let’s hope they do...... the only way out of this is to speed up the destruction and then show how and why it failed. Then we rebuild. I say give them everything they want stand back and let it fail and the say “See, I told you so”


23 posted on 11/08/2012 10:07:01 PM PST by superfries
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Easy .

Every democrat is no on record saying its inaccurate characterize the election as “takers vs makers”, so they shall agree to a wide range of socials spending cuts, caps and holds!


24 posted on 11/08/2012 10:09:28 PM PST by NoLibZone ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic")
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To: jessduntno

and outlaw movie production tax breaks.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 10:10:53 PM PST by NoLibZone ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic")
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Fiscal cliff? Between a second-term, freed-up Marxist at the helm, and the insipid Boehner and the GOP-E salivating for amnesty? Go right off that cliff!! Let’s crash and burn! Best option. I’ll happily celebrate it. I’ll even roast marshmallows.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 10:16:59 PM PST by greene66
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

GOP solve? Democrats have senate & white house. GOP should watch the democrats stumble around. Let’s see how that works out for everyone .


27 posted on 11/08/2012 10:54:21 PM PST by Morris70
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
How will GOP solve fiscal cliff riddle?

Cave -- even though they have the majority and too many to fit into it.

28 posted on 11/08/2012 10:57:00 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Why are the Republicans allowing the responsibility to solve this be placed on them? The Democrats are the majority in Washington (Senate and Executive).


29 posted on 11/08/2012 11:33:43 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

FLAT TAX.....same percentage for EVERYONE after personal exemption!!! <P.The 47% that pay NOTHING need to PAY...PERIOD!


30 posted on 11/09/2012 1:32:01 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

It’s not the GPO’s to solve - the Dems own it and it’s up to them to either become sane or splash more gas on the fire. Back up a bit so you don’t lose your eyebrows when the flare-up hits...


31 posted on 11/09/2012 2:33:10 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: RC one
Boehner won’t accept raising taxes

Ni***, PLEASE!

PLEASE tell me you don't believe that.

If Paul Ryan is not elected Speaker of the House, I don't give a damn what the GOP does or does not do.

We elected this miserable majority to perform their vital constitutional role and so far they have done NOTHING.

Now, it's war or surrender, and I already know where Boehner stands.

32 posted on 11/09/2012 2:37:56 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Jim Noble

I like Boehner and I trust him and I think he’s a lot more conservative than he gets credit for. I also think he has done more for conservatives and republicans than the TEA party ever managed. the TEA party lost the senate for us. Boehner held the house. That’s good enough for me.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 3:02:04 AM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: RC one
I like Boehner and I trust him and I think he’s a lot more conservative than he gets credit for. I also think he has done more for conservatives and republicans than the TEA party ever managed. the TEA party lost the senate for us. Boehner held the house. That’s good enough for me.

Boehner did no such thing. He is part and parcel of the DC machine and will do nothing to fight the Dems.

He has not until now, and he will not do so in the future.

He should be our version of Nancy Pelosi, throwing a monkey wrench into everything Democrat, but he did not.

He has already caved--he can defund Obamacare, but he kicked the can down the road with a continuing resolution this fiscal year, he helped cave for the sequestration deal, and now announces he is ready to work with Obama and Obamacare is the law of the land.

You are seriously deluded if you trust this charlatan and think he and McConnell are going to do anything different than what they do best already--cave to the Democrats.

Watch the Weeper sell you and yours right down the Potomac River over the next six weeks.

34 posted on 11/09/2012 3:23:51 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82

when has he caved on conservative issues? he has consistently been on the right side of every conservative issue and he has shrewdly managed to hold the house when the TEA managed to lose the senate. what did all of that purity gain Todd Akin and richard mourdock? For us? It screwed us. Are those losers helping to fight the dem agenda now? Hell no. But Boehner is still in the fight. You’re the one that’s deluded. don’t even try to lecture me on purity.


35 posted on 11/09/2012 3:41:30 AM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Republicans know they’re going to have to budge on revenues in the looming debt and spending debate.

False premise from the communists at 'politico'.

GOP doesn't have to do a damn thing, and shouldn't.

1) 0bama w0n. It's the 0bama ec0n0my ... let 0bama fix it. (Hah!)

2) Our problems do not stem from a lack of revenue. Our problems stem from a government which exists to facilitate the takers stealing from the makers, and an electorate containing of a critical mass of takers. We have become an electorate of thieves, represented by a senate of whores.

36 posted on 11/09/2012 3:55:05 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RC one

I noticed you didn’t respond to the charge that Boehner folded on the dent, the sequestration and now Obamacare.

All true and undeniable.

So I will say again—you are the deluded one. Boehner held nothing. Did’t even see his face during the campaign until the last weekend for Romney when he showed up at a campaign event.Where was he traveling anywhere to help GOP congressional candidates? You talk like he actually helped conservatives get elected.

Why won’t he say he’ll defund Obamacare if he is so conservative? When has he ever laid down the gauntlet to Reid and Obama? When has he ever told Pelosi off?

There’s your answer.

Boehner is not in any fight except for himself.

And the TEAs did not lose anything. In case you hadn’t noticed, it was Boehner and company that moved to isolate the TEAS when they came to Congress in Jan. 2011.

Why didn’t Boehner defund Obamacare then? Why did he just allow continuing resolutions into March 2013 to fund it when the American electorate overwhelming elected representatives to do just that in 2010?

Boehner just said Obamacare is the law of the land, and he wants the President to succeed. He just undercut your whole position.

You are deluded if you cannot see that.


37 posted on 11/09/2012 4:00:52 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: ArrogantBustard
1) 0bama w0n. It's the 0bama ec0n0my ... let 0bama fix it. (Hah!)

I want to make an Obama bumper sticker, "Hey Obama voters, Own it!"

38 posted on 11/09/2012 4:05:18 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: exit82; RC one

The House of Representatives, were the constitutional system still functioning, would wield enormous power in our defense.

The Speaker (presuming the Speaker is of the majority) is the one official who can block unconstitutional Executive Branch activity.

This has been John Boehner’s job for the past two years, and he has been a miserable failure.

The House majority has to decide on open (political) war or appeasement. I have no illusions about who these Republican members are, but they’re all we have.

If the House fails to choose political war, by electing Paul Ryan Speaker, I fear that they will get the real thing before elections roll around again. THAT would be a disaster which we should take all possible measures to avoid - except the one measure Boehner seems capable of, which is appeasement.


39 posted on 11/09/2012 4:18:19 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: exit82
Obamacare is the law of the land. You're deluded. Boehner shuts down the government and we lose the house and then we're even more fu**ed than we are now. Ask Newt Gingrich. Again, you're deluded. He didn't fold on anything, he played the best and only game that he could play with the sh*t cards that were dealt to him. and guess what, the purists just dealt him an even sh*ttier hand so get ready to bend over pilgrim because elections have consequences and you're about to find that out the hard way.
40 posted on 11/09/2012 4:26:27 AM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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