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OT: Best places overseas to work/retire? (Mediterranean vs Argentina/Chile/Brazil/Nicaragua/Panama?)

Posted on 11/08/2012 1:34:19 PM PST by Javeth

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Thanks for any suggestions and details.
1 posted on 11/08/2012 1:34:25 PM PST by Javeth
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I live in São Paulo, Brazil. Imagine a country where the Obamacrats are the right wing party (PSDB) while the ruling left wing party is led by a former Marxist guerrilla feminazi. We have the taxes of Sweden and the services of Nigeria.

On the plus side people are genuinely friendly (unlike superficial southern hospitality), and the women are hot.

2 posted on 11/08/2012 1:41:42 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Clemenza

Did you get deported to Brazil as punishment?


3 posted on 11/08/2012 1:45:37 PM PST by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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Malta might be a possibility It has a stable republican government and is centrally located. English is widely spoken, and the Muslim population is small.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 1:46:59 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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None are gun friendly. I looked into Belize. Nice place but.....very unfriendly toward guns. If you are from the gun culture and enjoy the shooting sports, look into this closely before committing.
5 posted on 11/08/2012 1:47:16 PM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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My advice to you is move fast.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 1:47:52 PM PST by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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One of the OPM investigators that comes in for law checks is planning to retire in Cebu City, Philippines. He says the cost of living is very cheap and can get property there for around $100,000. he says there is a magazine called International Living that covers all of this stuff.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 1:48:11 PM PST by Jean2
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To: exnavy

Work and wife brought me here. Draw your own conclusions.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 1:48:28 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Clemenza
I live in São Paulo, Brazil.
Any place would look good after Malverne.
9 posted on 11/08/2012 1:50:56 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Javeth

I expected if Baraq won, the necessary discussion on FR will be “bolt or revolt”.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 1:53:22 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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My sis-in-law is from Pampanga, Philippines and my brother married her in Cebu. It’s an expat’s dream. Extremely cheap and it’s like Miami but gosh, the property taxes are low. Lots of Americans there. That’s where the Phil call center for Paypal, AT&T and other multinatl corps are located.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 1:53:22 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Clemenza

My best friend from HS now lives in Sao Paulo! The most conservative guy ever and yet he chose to live there. He was reading Ayn Rand in Jr. High, if that tells you anything. So I couldn’t see him selling everything off and moving to socialist Club Med, but he did. I guess when you have enough money to retire at 40, anywhere is probably a nice place. He abandoned the US in 2009 post Obama and has no regrets. Chatting online on election night all he could do was tell me “Told ya so”. He now has several hobby businesses, employs locals and runs a cash based/underground mini-empire, but mainly lives off his previous investments and sale of business here in the states. Pays zero taxes, but claims makes up for them in friendly bribes to friendly officials. The the Brazil way. He enjoys the freedom, the lifestyle, and yes, the women.

So, based on my very limited knowledge, Brazil would be great if you already have oodles of money.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 1:54:30 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: Clemenza
I've visited there, wouldn't want to live there.

That said, you may be far better off than I.

13 posted on 11/08/2012 1:54:38 PM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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bfl


14 posted on 11/08/2012 1:55:15 PM PST by doubled ( never in the field of human con tricks has so much been owed by so many to so little effect - Steyn)
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Santiago and Valparaiso are delightful places. Chileans are for the most part industrious + hard-working. They speak rapid Spanish but are sympathetic to gingos who make the effort to habla. The Chilean economy is on fire as they have a capitalist system unspoiled (so far) by the looters and moochers.
15 posted on 11/08/2012 1:55:25 PM PST by corkoman (Release the Palin!)
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To: Javeth

Invest only where there is the rule of law.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 1:56:40 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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“On the plus side people are genuinely friendly (unlike superficial southern hospitality), and the women are hot.”

Ha, true, can’t help but notice that even if pretending not to around the Missus. I only had a couple brief stays in Brazil decades ago when the business was barely off the ground, among my first trips outside the USA. Even then, and probably affected by my status then as an unmarried guy, I wondered if the gorgeousness of the women compared to the United States and most any other country could make up for all the flip-sides in Brazil. I’d heard about so many expats working there these days that I thought the flip-sides might have picked up, too, but it’s one of the places I admittedly know far less about. I guess people manage somehow.

Thanks for the details.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 2:04:52 PM PST by Javeth
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I went through this during the Clintoon administration. Just save yourself a bunch of frustration. There is still no place like here. I found out quickly that I won't go anywhere my guns aren't welcome. I almost decided on Ecuador and in less than 2 years, they went commie. I would go to Australia, but they are expensive and they have already lost their guns. It's just an intellectual exercise that ends up back in the US.

The questions to be pondering are "When do you join a militia?" "At what point do you start firing on your neighbors?" "When do you say enough is enough?"

The Founders found a point they would not budge. Where is that point? Lincoln drew a line in the sand and the south gladly crossed it. No one wants to see this type of situation come upon the nation, but how far will we go? It would be easier to go to Belize, but how long before SHTF there? I would be in Alaska if I could, but I would lose my wife in that move.

18 posted on 11/08/2012 2:05:33 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I’ve been doing business in Argentina for more that 10 years, and have developed some good friendships there.

It IS a great place, and the people are wonderful. But, I think it’s far too unstable to count on.

I’ve been doing some looking at Panama. It seems to be a pretty interesting place.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 2:06:20 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I’ve been doing business in Argentina for more that 10 years, and have developed some good friendships there.

It IS a great place, and the people are wonderful. But, I think it’s far too unstable to count on.

I’ve been doing some looking at Panama. It seems to be a pretty interesting place.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 2:07:34 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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